Item level sync dungeons

[Pence]

340 dps knows perfectly how aggro works and if playing the aggro war against a new 70 tank still to gear, they are doing it on purpose and tank has all rights to let them eat (and tank) the mobs. After all, dps wanted the mobs so cannot complain.

Any 340 blaming the ungeared tank is just trolling or very ignorant and his 340 comes from carries.

Even with ilvl sync it's easy to rip hate from a new tank. As a BRD you enter proc-city. You're asking them to literally stop using skills because the tank is new and your ilvl is 50 over theirs (even with our 2 enmity dumps)

[LaylaTsarra]

Don’t have them as part of the expert roulette then

It won't be forever. Eventually it'll be moved to a 70 level roulette as we get more dungeons added with upcoming patches. I have absolutely no problem with level syncing and I'm sure SE understands why level syncing is necessary. Even in a level 70 roulette there will still be tons of people trying to clear that for story so level syncing it will still be necessary. You can ask for it but I wouldn't hold your breath.

[LalaRu]

Story dungeons require level sync for new/leveling players as they should be.

I'd like go far and say every duty of the game needs have a min and max il range.

Min IL, to let the "lolgeared" (the DoH/DoL accessories, lv1 weapons, anything made for troll or just ignorance of gearing system) do not access things they cannot do, and IL sync to avoid the troubles to deal with people three times more powerful than you. The old content have the unsync feature so everything is fine for it.

...it's easy to rip hate from a new tank. As a BRD you enter proc-city. You're asking them to literally stop using skills because the tank is new...

False. I'm just stating you know what you were doing when ripping hate off the tank. I'm playing BRD too and when I rip hate off the tank is because I don't care to tank the mob, maybe I'll kill it before even it touches me. But I don't blame the tank as trolls do.

[BillyKaplan]

This is one more thread in which players in hardcore endgame forget that this game now has 70 levels and 340 something odd ilvls and not everyone are at the same stage. Sort of like asking ARR hunts to be level 70 and to hell with the people on-level, as though having a level 50 S rank spawn on your level 43 MIN isn't bad enough...
Yeah, dps can manage their agro against an undergeared tank, it's called sheathing your weapon. But between that being the definition of a dps loss, and it just looking bad, I think the ilvl sync is preferable. At least overgeared dps won't sit there and do nothing.
Then there's also the flip side. Think of an overgeared tank with newbie dps. How long before the tank starts complaining about parsing more than the dps, or stance-dances into dps stance only to see the adds don't die fast enough and they run out of cooldowns and die and they complain about the dps?
Yeah, it's on them, like LalaRu said. But it's still a trash experience for the rest of the party.

Let it also be said that 'it's in expert roulette' doesn't mean anything. It's the hardest content for most casual players, and hey, guess what, those won't have 340 gear because casuals can't upgrade yet. So why don't we keep that in mind and accept who that content is actually for in the first place. Wait a week and you'll have your Ultimate Bahamut to go in full ilvl against, leave the dungeons for the people they were meant for.

[LaylaTsarra]

I'd like go far and say every duty of the game needs have a min and max il range.

i'm not sure about every duty but many do have item level restrictions to enter. I've leveled quite a few alts and gearing them to get into content was a good part of what I had to do. Actually the 235 pvp gear was a god send for a couple of my alts to quickly get them into content without having to grind the gear upgrade treadmill.

[Neophyte]

340 dps knows perfectly how aggro works and if playing the aggro war against a new 70 tank still to gear, they are doing it on purpose and tank has all rights to let them eat (and tank) the mobs. After all, dps wanted the mobs so cannot complain.

Any 340 blaming the ungeared tank is just trolling or very ignorant and his 340 comes from carries.

Lol. With 340 I don't have a problem with tanking, because at least the mobs (together with another 340 dps/heal) will melt like nothing. Sooo, say goodbye to the tank (who sure forgot to hit sprint) and (maybe) wait for him at the boss room.

Not saying that this is nice, but...
OP literally asks for a "unsynch feature" for roulette. Did you do any unsynch content with a not-your-level tank and cared about him? Tanks won't get blamed.. they just get ignored.

And even with Diversion and LD (which you mustn't have used on the mobs before then) in a boss fight a 340 against a 290-300 tank has to do nothing for a long time. Sooo... what's the point in being so high then anyway, if a dhcrit Fleche means I have to stop doing my melee combo to not get hate?

[FabricioRF]

Why do you want the ilvl sync gone so bad? The dungeon is already faceroll-y as-is.

[Lelila38]

I don't have a problem with getting low geared players in the other expert dungeons either. I'm a big elf, I can handle my aggro. But the ilvl sync is seriously annoying. Can't wait til they remove that dungeon from ex roulette, especially since I get it at least 3/5 runs.

[Pence]

False. I'm just stating you know what you were doing when ripping hate off the tank. I'm playing BRD too and when I rip hate off the tank is because I don't care to tank the mob, maybe I'll kill it before even it touches me. But I don't blame the tank as trolls do.

Maybe you're just a bad BRD?

[Sylvina]

If the DPS is really pulling hate from the tank, then they need to start using things like lucid dreaming and tactician, no excuses.

But I've never had a single issue with pulling hate or losing hate since SE buffed tank threat early in SB.