Thread: Suggestion for 5.0 launch

Originally Posted by Pence

Your solution to the game having a lack of content is to 'go play other games'? You don't 'need 1 - 2' days to accomplish weekly goals in this game. It's more 45m-1.5hrs. Then you're done for the week for raiders. Hence no content.

On one hand, it's nice that for once, we have a game that isn't an endless Korean-style MMO grind and the devs actively encourage players to take a break and enjoy other games to avoid burnout, and people with IRL obligations can pretty much play at the same pace as the most hardcore of players.

The problem lies in assuming that everyone actually wants to take such breaks, or can even find anything enjoyable to take such breaks with, especially if you want to continue playing with your friends from FFXIV. There was a recent push within my circle of friends to get everyone to play PUBG while waiting for 3.1, but it fell apart because not everyone (especially me) has any interest in shooters.

Originally Posted by Blindheart

You say I don't know how to manage my time... But I'm not the one who is posing about having nothing to do in game... Again, don't rush through content. If you know that patches are going to take months, go play other games. Tons of new games have been released this year, I took time away from this one to enjoy those. You can easily spend 1 or 2 days accomplishing your goals with this one then try out some other games for the rest of the week. If you don't want to do that, like I said there are tons of in game thing to do, I doubt you have competed everything...

Maybe the only game people enjoy is XIV, have you ever thought of that? Sorry we are looking for more ways to extend our time in the game we enjoy playing. There should be things to keep people playing and have long term rewards and goals. But sadly this games philosophy is to just stop when you feel like theres nothing left to do and go play something else. Thats a horrible design and should change, not an overnight change but looking to the future something should be done.

I enjoy many console games but when it comes to MMOs only XIV can do it for me, (even if I do not agree with some of the design choices). But this whole please go play something else or you rushed through content and are burnt out crap needs to stop.

Originally Posted by alimdia

I'm wondering the opposite, how you guys go through content so slow, I only play a few hours per day after work, gaining a level takes literally 3-4 20 mins dungeon runs, expert takes 15 mins, raiding a couple hours a week, even not doing dungeons and only doing leveling roulette you'd cap several jobs by now, crafting and gathering are faster to level now than in previous expansions and it's still something you only do once and done.

The fact you refer to your dungeon and levels in terms of quantifiable numbers tells me a lot about how you play VS how I play. I'm queue'd for dungeons for.. I don't know how long and while I am I'm running hunt marks and beast tribe quests to level other jobs. I get to play maybe 2 hours a day. I was done with the expansions actual story in a few weeks (I did delay finishing MSQ a little by stopping when my DRG hit 70 and waiting till I got my DRK to 69 to continue with it so I could use the Xp from the story quests and side quests).

Since then I've leveled SMN(SCH), MCH, RDM, and now doing SAM . Leveled BTN and MIN to 70. Still haven't run out of things to do. I'm capped out for gear for my DRG but that's not what I consider the end.

Just so you have an idea of how the other half lives.

if you release relic right away there's nothing gear wise to separate raiders from casuals. that won't go over well.

Originally Posted by DrWho2010

if you release relic right away there's nothing gear wise to separate raiders from casuals. that won't go over well.

They could just make the relic step end at like 5 or 10 item levels below the final tier weapon. If they make the step a big PITA they could honestly justify it easily.
Now if they introduce relic and it's slightly more annoying than it has to be, I would probably just wait until the steps were nerfed. There's a timing for everything and I think square missed it on this one.

I agree..the relic shouldve been here by end of july or in august. They really don't gain anything by giving the smallest portion of the population (savage raiders) the best weapon for 3-5 months. I hope they listen to this since they have a lot of time to change it for next time.

I don't really see how releasing relic at 5.0 or 5.5 is as a bad thing. If anything, it'll add a proper "end game" activity, something quite a few players feel we currently lack.

I'm not sure what is meant by it not ending well if raiders and casuals are both on the same footing weaponwise? If it's status, then the 5.0 raids need to use the gear itself to let them outpace casuals.

I was hoping they release relic sooner a lot of us already got a 345 weapon from the raid. I liked 2.0 launch where relics were available from the start and we used them for progression in coil.