Suggestion for 5.0 launch

**alimdia** · 09-30-2017 01:24 PM

4.0 launch had the same issue of 3.0, you'd spend a few days doing story, a few days doing roulettes for tome gear, level a couple alts you care about, then sit there doing nothing but once a day expert / leveling waiting for normal mode raid, which you get the drops of in one day, then sit there doing nothing the rest of the 6 days waiting for weekly lockout, two weeks later of playing only a few hours a day savage is implemented, but for most statics savage is just a few hours a week, outside those few hours (and for those who don't raid) there's nothing until 4.1, which at that point is like 2.5-3 months away.

2.5 to 3 months of a few hours a week of raid and 15 mins of expert (no other roulette is worth doing, only leveling if you're leveling something)

The suggestion: I would really really really like if instead of delaying relic weapons for 6-9 months they would be released along with savage, 4 weeks after launch (in 5.05), this game is seriously lacking things to do after savage is implemented. Out of the current content, not everyone wants to level jobs they don't care about, and lost canals is terrible in that it takes way too long to go through the maps + canal portals combined of an entire party, and on top of it is very unrewarding.

I never understood the choice of delaying the relic weapon when so far that has been one of the main contents that keeps many people playing for longer.

**Blindheart** · 09-30-2017 03:21 PM

That's one timeline.... I've had plenty to do, I haven't even finished the story and I've been playing for months. Stop rushing through the game maybe? Go out and play other games? Or do everything this game has to offer?

If you want to be able to play the game 24/7 you can't expect to be doing endgame things the whole time. The content is there, go level all the jobs. Collect all the cards, minions, mounts. Become a master crafter, go get every achievement in the game. There is lots to do. Just because the content that you want to do is not released yet does not mean there is nothing in game to do.

**Iromi** · 10-01-2017 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by Blindheart

That's one timeline.... I've had plenty to do, I haven't even finished the story and I've been playing for months. Stop rushing through the game maybe? Go out and play other games? Or do everything this game has to offer?

If you want to be able to play the game 24/7 you can't expect to be doing endgame things the whole time. The content is there, go level all the jobs. Collect all the cards, minions, mounts. Become a master crafter, go get every achievement in the game. There is lots to do. Just because the content that you want to do is not released yet does not mean there is nothing in game to do.

Wait, then what are you doing when you log in? My boyfriend has full time university and part time jobs and still managed to finish all of SB in a week or so. He has full raid gear and leveled everything to 70. Is he just way good at time management or what? I am seriously asking btw, not trying to be sarcastic..I am legitimately curious what people are doing when he has so little time yet finished everything so quickly. o.O He also read every single quest and does not skip anything either.

In no way, shape or form did he rush ANYTHING. He took his time, reading everything, paying attention to detail and played through stormblood with me, it was a blast. We also play other games, travel and do tons of stuff IRL so..I don't think its very good for an MMO to follow the same formula and run out of things to do so quickly, delay the relic quests and they need to produce content with longevity.

I agree with OP, there needs to be more to do then the SAME old formula for YEARS now.

**Blindheart** · 10-01-2017 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by Iromi

Wait, then what are you doing when you log in? My boyfriend has full time university and part time jobs and still managed to finish all of SB in a week or so. He has full raid gear and leveled everything to 70. Is he just way good at time management or what? I am seriously asking btw, not trying to be sarcastic..I am legitimately curious what people are doing when he has so little time yet finished everything so quickly. o.O He also read every single quest and does not skip anything either.

In no way, shape or form did he rush ANYTHING. He took his time, reading everything, paying attention to detail and played through stormblood with me, it was a blast. We also play other games, travel and do tons of stuff IRL so..I don't think its very good for an MMO to follow the same formula and run out of things to do so quickly, delay the relic quests and they need to produce content with longevity.

I only do story content one day a week, I'm to tired after work to enjoy the story if I log in at all. I do roulettes to level up other classes, I will have 5 or 6 jobs at 70 when I finish the story.

If you think I'm weird for that, go ahead, I'm sure everyone else does as well. Back in ARR I leveled every class to lvl 30 before I continued the story. I had completely stopped playing for 6 months before storm blood launched as well, because Final Fantasy 15, World of Final Fantasy, and Zelds Breath of the Wild needed to be played. And because of the cluster F that was the stormblood launch I didn't even start playing story for a while and finished those games.

I've no idea how anyone can get through the story in a few days or even a week, unless all they do is play 14 non stop every single day. I should be caught up with everything by the time 4.1 is out, I will do all the fancy new stuff along with everyone else... But I won't feel like I've run out of things to do.

If all I wanted to do was play this game everyday I will max out every class, get every single relic, minion, mount, card, housing item, achievement that can be had. If this game is my life there is plenty to do. it's not tho, I have other interests, I'm glad I don't have to sacrifice my soul to play this game. If all you want to play is the endgame, play what's available, then go live your life... What did you do before his game existed? Go do that!

I don't think the game needs more mindlessly grindy content either. You want relic in the game, but unless it's created differently, all it will be is go replay the same content until your sick of it. I wish it could have more unique and original content, but I know game development takes time. So I can wait and do other things or play what is here now and be thankful I have that.

**Krotoan** · 09-30-2017 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by alimdia

I never understood the choice of delaying the relic weapon when so far that has been one of the main contents that keeps many people playing for longer.

You answered your own question. Why don't they release it immediately? Because you'd be done with that just as quickly as the other things and then it'd be "Why isn't there anything to do!?" By doling out things to do slowly they can keep us strung along for far longer than just releasing everything at the same time and watching the userbase gorge on all the content and leave till the next expansion. That and I'm sure there's some limitations on resources to conceptualize, code and implement the quests and items.

**alimdia** · 09-30-2017 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Blindheart

That's one timeline.... I've had plenty to do, I haven't even finished the story and I've been playing for months. Stop rushing through the game maybe? Go out and play other games? Or do everything this game has to offer?

I work and still had time to finish the story, clear O4S, cap all gatherers, cap all crafters and cap several jobs. Seems more like you don't know how to manage your time.

Take a walk through kugane or rhalgr's, check your friend list, check your fc, check your linkshells, you will see a lot less people around, you going through the story at a very slow pace doesn't mean people going faster than you are rushing.

Originally Posted by Krotoan

You answered your own question. Why don't they release it immediately? Because you'd be done with that just as quickly as the other things and then it'd be "Why isn't there anything to do!?" By doling out things to do slowly they can keep us strung along for far longer than just releasing everything at the same time and watching the userbase gorge on all the content and leave till the next expansion. That and I'm sure there's some limitations on resources to conceptualize, code and implement the quests and items.

Relic weapons usually have 1-2 months of longevity if you work on them at a normal pace, so no I wouldn't be done with it as fast as content that is designed to not last long.

Originally Posted by JunseiKei

I'm just sitting here wondering how anyone has nothing to do in this game. I still have a huge list of things to do, and at launch, was still scrambling to get things done. How much do you guys skip over story and consume energy drinks to burn though content so quickly?

I'm wondering the opposite, how you guys go through content so slow, I only play a few hours per day after work, gaining a level takes literally 3-4 20 mins dungeon runs, expert takes 15 mins, raiding a couple hours a week, even not doing dungeons and only doing leveling roulette you'd cap several jobs by now, crafting and gathering are faster to level now than in previous expansions and it's still something you only do once and done.

**Clicked** · 09-30-2017 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by alimdia

I'm wondering the opposite, how you guys go through content so slow, I only play a few hours per day after work, gaining a level takes literally 3-4 20 mins dungeon runs, expert takes 15 mins, raiding a couple hours a week, even not doing dungeons and only doing leveling roulette you'd cap several jobs by now, crafting and gathering are faster to level now than in previous expansions and it's still something you only do once and done.

It's all about goals I guess. The game lasts longer when your singular goal is not "capping all the things". Some people take the time to really absorb the story, talk to NPCs, take a break to hop on another job, stop and do a FATE even though its not the best way to gain exp, do some seasonal event, play with glamour options, go find a new minion...

That's my best guess for why there's a large gap between those who are bored and those who have plenty still to do. Not all players are laser focused on completion of very specific (usually end game) goals. A lot of players like to explore and the endgame gear treadmill isn't really their full time thing.

**FabricioRF** · 09-30-2017 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by alimdia

I'm wondering the opposite, how you guys go through content so slow, I only play a few hours per day after work, gaining a level takes literally 3-4 20 mins dungeon runs, expert takes 15 mins, raiding a couple hours a week, even not doing dungeons and only doing leveling roulette you'd cap several jobs by now, crafting and gathering are faster to level now than in previous expansions and it's still something you only do once and done.

inb4 have you collected every single minion in the game?

**Blindheart** · 09-30-2017 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by alimdia

I work and still had time to finish the story, clear O4S, cap all gatherers, cap all crafters and cap several jobs. Seems more like you don't know how to manage your time.

Take a walk through kugane or rhalgr's, check your friend list, check your fc, check your linkshells, you will see a lot less people around, you going through the story at a very slow pace doesn't mean people going faster than you are rushing.

I'm wondering the opposite, how you guys go through content so slow, I only play a few hours per day after work, gaining a level takes literally 3-4 20 mins dungeon runs, expert takes 15 mins, raiding a couple hours a week, even not doing dungeons and only doing leveling roulette you'd cap several jobs by now, crafting and gathering are faster to level now than in previous expansions and it's still something you only do once and done.

You say I don't know how to manage my time... But I'm not the one who is posing about having nothing to do in game... Again, don't rush through content. If you know that patches are going to take months, go play other games. Tons of new games have been released this year, I took time away from this one to enjoy those. You can easily spend 1 or 2 days accomplishing your goals with this one then try out some other games for the rest of the week. If you don't want to do that, like I said there are tons of in game thing to do, I doubt you have competed everything...

**Pence** · 10-01-2017 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Blindheart

You say I don't know how to manage my time... But I'm not the one who is posing about having nothing to do in game... Again, don't rush through content. If you know that patches are going to take months, go play other games. Tons of new games have been released this year, I took time away from this one to enjoy those. You can easily spend 1 or 2 days accomplishing your goals with this one then try out some other games for the rest of the week. If you don't want to do that, like I said there are tons of in game thing to do, I doubt you have competed everything...

Your solution to the game having a lack of content is to 'go play other games'? You don't 'need 1 - 2' days to accomplish weekly goals in this game. It's more 45m-1.5hrs. Then you're done for the week for raiders. Hence no content.

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