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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexi14 View Post
    I have double materias hp+ on my armor, and it helps my tank a LOT.
    i don't think the op had hp/mp(although mp materia is broken considering the spell cost) in mind when considering stats. I think what the op is referencing is how adding stats doesn't make a big enough difference to worry about stats.

    If you wanna see a difference in say, strength you have to add like 30-50 as in other games you'd see a dif in just 1-5 points.
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  2. #42
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    Just a troll
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    On terms of the numbers for damage, I think it is all psychological.

    In table top gaming (before 4th generation), doing 10 damage at level 1 is pretty awesome.

    It was a bit of a shock as a 22-something Pugilist to fight an enemy and see my fists only smack for 10~12 a hit. But when I couple in that I'm hitting twice, avoiding a lot of attacks, Second Wind pretty much recovering from any damage the enemy did do, and the occasional weapon skill, it really balances out.

    edit: One more level and I upgrade the weapon and there's usually a noticeable difference when I do.

    Although I admit, seeing Yang and Sabin smack stuff has made me expect higher numbers in general.
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    Last edited by Fiosha_Maureiba; 01-06-2012 at 12:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafont View Post
    Like the title says. SE will continue to screw the game up if people keep sitting back saying it's ok.
    Charging for a game that isn't even worth playing. NOT OK.
    Materia being useless, NOT ok.
    Combat still being boring because of limited combos and crappy damage, Not ok.
    You said you are taking from wow and other MMO's well why didn't you learn that higher damage/ more abilities that actually do something/ faster combat = a fun game.
    Let us do more damage, just scale the Targets HP to make it last longer, make the fights more fun rather then this borefestival.
    So wait...you're saying you want our damage numbers to be bigger, and you want the monsters HP to be bigger.

    If the ratio of damage to HP is the same, what difference does it really make?

    I'm not saying the combat isn't boring, but just making bigger numbers isn't going to fix anything.
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  5. #45
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    Fine. Post all you like as this is the last we will here from you. Its becoming more and more obvious who has not played very much. Op reminds me of a kid who says "I'm hungry " over and over while parents are making dinner. When they feed him he says "I don't want this." Apparently you are not hungry you just need a nap. Basically just do something else. Stop trying to put down a game you have no intention of paying for or playing and kindly leave. Its time to put up the cash so the losses can be cut and the true base can begin.

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    I still want manawhat to respond to my post
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafont View Post
    Like the title says. SE will continue to screw the game up if people keep sitting back saying it's ok.
    Charging for a game that isn't even worth playing. NOT OK.
    Materia being useless, NOT ok.
    Combat still being boring because of limited combos and crappy damage, Not ok.
    You said you are taking from wow and other MMO's well why didn't you learn that higher damage/ more abilities that actually do something/ faster combat = a fun game.
    Let us do more damage, just scale the Targets HP to make it last longer, make the fights more fun rather then this borefestival.
    brilliant.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafont View Post
    Like the title says. SE will continue to screw the game up if people keep sitting back saying it's ok.
    Charging for a game that isn't even worth playing. NOT OK.
    Materia being useless, NOT ok.
    Combat still being boring because of limited combos and crappy damage, Not ok.
    You said you are taking from wow and other MMO's well why didn't you learn that higher damage/ more abilities that actually do something/ faster combat = a fun game.
    Let us do more damage, just scale the Targets HP to make it last longer, make the fights more fun rather then this borefestival.
    you hit the marmot for 123,673,100,000, whoa that was allot of damage to bad he has 100,000,000,000,000,000 hp total, this might take awhile, lol
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    This thread is quite silly if you consider that the combat system is not yet complete (and it's not) so for them to fix stats to an incomplete system means they'll have to fix them again when they complete it. And if materia had a great effect now it would get to an absurd level later on.
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  10. #50
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    I would have to agree that you don't know enough at low-mid level to make these kind of sweeping statement.

    Materia is pointless at those levels and is more of an end game thing really, kind of how people don't waste money on gems and enchantments in WoW until end game.

    Stats aren't as overblown as other MMO's either which makes it appear like they aren't working, you just have to stack several materia on each piece of gear and the difference is quite noticable.

    Of course for most casual players thats not really an option.

    Edit:- Didn't Yoshi-p say that the materia hasn't been adjusted since the battle/gear changes also ?
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    Last edited by Jinko; 01-06-2012 at 01:41 AM.

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