WAR raid "UTILITY" (Tank Balanced achieved?)

[Chrono_Rising]

Really? Darkest Night isn't raid utility because "people aren't depending on a 5k shield". Then wtf is every paladin move?

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Can we at least stop the blatant hypocrisy? A 5k shield available every 15 sec that can be used on anyone, or a 10k shield on yourself ISNT the vaunted raid utility?

Sure, lets stop the hypocrisy. If mitigating myself is raid utility then I don't understand why shaking off a debuff wouldn't be considered utility. It might be used once every other tier only on Sundays between 6:00 and 6:01 pm if it is a full moon, but by this logic hey its there so its utility. So I assume you point hinges on the 5k shield on another member. Ok, so the 5k on another person, is it a useful utility, or is it more like clemency is a utility? Its there, but should it actually be used? The answer is no not really. As for this:

Blackest knight is absolutely raid utility. "Its the mitigation they need". Yes all those OT darks are really using it for mitigation. Please.

Drk is in a bit of a rough spot atm, but lets not go delusional.

Well lets look at top dark knight parses, how often are they using their shield on their MT as an OT. Almost 0. Is it because the "utility" is a dps loss in dps stance outside buff windows? Yes, it is or at least the numbers are so close to being a loss or a break even that its usually better spent on dark arts to increase dps.

Where as for paladin we have a raid shield which mitigates 10% of hp and is not a dps loss for the paladin to put up. You also have PoA but yes this comes at a dps loss, but it mitigates damage for everyone.

Finally this:

If war got that exact same ability Drks would be crying themselves to sleep rocking back and forth saying "War is the darkest night!"

You have this already, its called inner beast, and a oGCD free heal called equilibrium, it is a dps loss but hey it’s there right? It isn't every 15 seconds, but the WAR mitigation kit is really well designed and doesn't really need a every 15 second mitigation. This is my point, sure technically TBN is utility, but my point in replying to the post is that it isn’t nearly as great as it is made out to be and most of the time is personal mitigation. Much like warrior won’t want to use inner beast or equilibrium in heal form, most dark knights in a raid won’t want to use tbn for anything other than self mitigation, and even then they will try to minimize its use outside of grit.