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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Okay, It's Two-Way Communication Time

    Alright Devs and Reps, once again I'm calling out to you to actually talk to us on this one. The PLL, while great, has raised some rather burning questions now.

    We've complained of disliking higher-priority non-player related objectives in Player vs Player content and we're getting more. . .

    We've complained of players botting in Frontlines, and now Rival Wings is practically providing bots. . . (To be fair, many players seem excited for RW. I myself would like to be as well, but being a pre-4.0 PvPer in this game, I and many others continue to feel like what we loved of PvP in this game is continuously being handwaved away in favor of something entirely different from what we loved and supported for 3 years. . .)

    We voiced our disapproval of the chat restriction for almost an entire year now, and you've stonewalled us on it, citing skewed data and circumstantial reasons. . . And now you're set to add tells cross server. TELLS - one of the biggest methods players and RMTs use/used to use to harrass players?

    And most recently, we collectively spoke out and denounced all the wintrading in the Feast, hoping something would finally be done after 5 seasons of the same perpetrators getting away with it, and now you're going to allow them to hide their win/loss rates - a tool that could be useful in identifying suspiciously high jumps in points? WHAT?!

    Talk to us. What is your line of thought in these changes, or lack of proper handling of continued issues? Inform us on what you want PvP in this game to be; I and many others feel what you want and what we want is wildly different, and that's hardly beneficial for either of us.
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Don't worry, they've totally got this. It's all in support of XIV becoming an e-sport.
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    Head Hunters
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    i dont rly care, ill keep murdering ppl even in new mode lol. also for feast, gg on hiding w/l rating. its an help to wintraders and dont think that by hidding the wr we dont know who's good/bad.
    Also, im ready to get banned soon, 4.1 cross world /tell, i cant wait to flame incompetent inbreads like stella, cyan, 9t and so on
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    Where did they talk about PVP changes in the Live Letter?
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    It was closer to the latter half of the broadcast.

    More importantly, while I'm sure they're conducting whatever internal investigations they carry out to address all the reports of wintrading, the fact is, they're about to hand wintraders the means to cover their tracks (their win/loss records), among the other usual questionable changes.
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    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Wintraders, match throwers, AFKers, bots... We've reported them time, and time, and time again, and the only "response" that we've ever gotten is the interview where Yoshi P basically said that the reality wasn't as bad as the exaggerated reports made it seem. I've lost all faith in our dev team at this point. They refuse to do anything about issues that aren't verbal harassment, and give a free pass to problem players, including hackers and cheaters. It's disgusting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    We've complained of disliking higher-priority non-player related objectives in Player vs Player content and we're getting more. . .
    Heh, and I for one don't even mind.

    Fighting actual players is a misery thanks to healers. There's currently a scholar going 'round in shatter abusing the fact they win every 1vs1 by default and can even survive against multiple players without CC and top tier coordination to keep constant pressure on the base.

    It's a winning strategy no matter how you deal with it. Either you constantly devote at the very least 2 people to shoo him away over and over, in which case their team is only down one person and yours 2+, giving them an advantage, you let him take base and lose points, you try to kill him 1vs1, which isn't possible and only feeds kills or you constantly ride in with a full party to surefire kill him and thereby weaken your team in the middle or at the objectives for a measly 5 points. The only effective counter to the strategy is to keep a healer at the base that can just heal themselves up perpetually until he gets bored and leaves.

    And that's just the tip of the iceberg. I honestly rather fight turrets or ice at that point. It's more satisfying. Or maybe some play Enfos, Line Tower Wars or sth, anything is more fun than that really.
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    Lace Valeria
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    Current healing values are higher than most physical DPS' combo enders. Speaking only for MCH, a single Cure 2/Benefic 2 completely outheals a full shot combo. (EDIT: I forgot to mention, a Cure/Benefic/Physick/Adloquium are all more potent than each shot, and more potent than the first 2 combined. . .) This basically requires coordinated offense against anyone, especially a healer. In SCH's case, while their heals aren't as potent, they do have shields and the fairy as a back up, and can seemingly indefinitely sustain with their attacks granting aetherflow stacks.

    It goes without saying that the balance is entirely out of whack at this point. Yet another footnote in a very bad time to be a PvPer in this game.

    I only wonder how many days it'll take for a response given that I'm not a minion collector complaining of being unable to complete my collection. . .
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    Last edited by ThirdChild_ZKI; 09-30-2017 at 07:31 AM.

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    Fionna Dawnbreaker
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    Goblin
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Don't forget AST is now a terrible healer to play as in Feast and they don't seem to care to at least give us something better than deorbit, the worst skill of all time in the feast.

    No regen, no shield, poor self sustain, still a terrible time to be an AST with no light at the end. (Yes I know AST used to be god tier, but this is actually just pathetic.)
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    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    I only wonder how many days it'll take for a response given that I'm not a minion collector complaining of being unable to complete my collection. . .
    Jesus. I'd ask for Esuna to remove that burn, but we don't get that in PvP anymore.
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