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    Player Snow_Princess's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    1.0 was made as a sequel to XI without looking at how the market had changed, and what MMOs of 2010 looked like. It flopped, so Yoshi P made the Dev team play popular MMOs (not just WoW) in order to analyse the market.

    Market analysis is not bad
    1.0 had nothing to do with FFXI.

    FFXIV 1.0 and ARR only take monster names and character models and such, being inspired from FFXI, there is things that FFXI even handles better then FFXIV, like transmission of data coding. Game play and such is more based on wow then anything else.
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  2. #632
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokotsune View Post
    When you look at the list it may look like a lot cause its segmented text and pictures. But to easily break it down. Beast Tribe dailies, Housing, Treasure hunting(not new), Squadron can do <50 lv dungeons, Weekly 24 man, Shinryu EX, another boring 70 dungeon. Shit ton of QoL changes that doesnt change gameplay. None of these have actual substance or occupy a large amount of time to complete/invest and usually turn into a daily or weekly chore instead of something that will have to occupy the space of 4 months.
    Oh, okay, so you're just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. Got it.
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  3. #633
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yokotsune View Post
    Look friend. I understand that .
    Exactly what I been saying for the past several pages, I can't believe people consider furniture and hair content :/.
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  4. #634
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    It's not meant to. Have you ever listened to what Yoshida has said? He wants people to have a healthy social life and does not want players to feel obligated to log in everyday. If you haven't, seriously, sit down and watch some video interviews with him or read articles. You'll have plenty of time to do that.
    Haha nice joke. At the same time, if you don't cap one week you're forever behind. Well maybe not forever, but until new tomes come out. I don't know a system that makes you feel more obligated to play every day.
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  5. #635
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    It seems that the definition of 'content' in the context of MMOs is kind of wonky.

    I personally view content as something that I can do in the game, but there are some people who consider cosmetic items to be content. I don't think they are wrong, but aside from going to the aesthetician and changing your hair, there isn't much to be done there.

    If you look at the breadth of content that requires active participation, I still contend that what we are getting in 4.1 (particularly what we are getting on October 10th itself) won't keep peoples' attention for a particularly long time.

    That isn't to say that I am not still looking forward to the patch (though I wish I would've made more money prior thereto), I just don't feel like it is going to have a lot of longevity.

    I could be wrong though! In fact, I hope I am in this case.
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  6. #636
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelila38 View Post
    Haha nice joke.
    I'm not joking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lelila38 View Post
    At the same time, if you don't cap one week you're forever behind. Well maybe not forever, but until new tomes come out.
    You mean until they have the catch up patch and get gear that's twice as better than you're currently wearing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lelila38 View Post
    I don't know a system that makes you feel more obligated to play every day.
    You can literally not play the game for 4 months, come back, and catch back up into current gear within a couple of days. I don't mean top gear; I mean gear good enough to do a majority of the content. IE: Right now, unless you're raiding, you only need verity gear. According to some people here, only 5% of the population raids, so you should be fine with just having verity.

    Your sentence alone made me immediately think of TERA. Missing one day of doing dailies set you back potentially months. All decent gear was gated behind heavy time investments, including unlocking skills and adding effects to them to actually make them worthwhile. That's just a game in "recent" memory, which I've not touched since ARR launched; older games were even an even bigger offender.
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    Last edited by JunseiKei; 10-07-2017 at 04:19 AM.
    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Exactly what I been saying for the past several pages, I can't believe people consider furniture and hair content :/.
    only need to go back one page to see you lying.
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  8. #638
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Exactly what I been saying for the past several pages, I can't believe people consider furniture and hair content :/.
    Why is that surprising? The Sims is a franchise literally built on people's desire to play virtual Barbie's Dream House. I guarantee you those who care more about glamour and housing outnumber people who do Savage or even 24-man raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    1.0 was made as a sequel to XI without looking at how the market had changed, and what MMOs of 2010 looked like. It flopped, so Yoshi P made the Dev team play popular MMOs (not just WoW) in order to analyse the market.

    Market analysis is not bad
    exactly
    While during the development of XI they checked the king of the genre of that time (everquest), they missed to do the same for XIV.
    Yoshida descriped it like opening a restaurant without checking the other restaurants in the neighborhood.

    https://youtu.be/Xs0yQKI7Yw4?t=2114
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-07-2017 at 05:45 AM.

  10. #640
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    only need to go back one page to see you lying.
    Lying about what been saying this whole thread agree with the op. That this patch is lacking in content.
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