Thread: 4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

Originally Posted by Pence

Yoshi loves WoW....he even made the Dev team play it at one point for inspiration....

Both him and Koji-fox even said that the reason 1.0 flopped was partly because the dev team didn't played wow and got in touch with what was considered the king of the market

Originally Posted by Pence

Yoshi loves WoW....he even made the Dev team play it at one point for inspiration....

Originally Posted by Remedi

Both him and Koji-fox even said that the reason 1.0 flopped was partly because the dev team didn't played wow and got in touch with what was considered the king of the market

That by itself it's not bad.

Correct me if I am wrong here, since i saw the documental a while ago and i do not have the information fresh in my head. But i think they did that to get out of the FFXI box and see why other games were having success at the time. Where I want to get it is that there is no mistake to get ideas from other sources to renew itself, even if that game is disliked by some.

Yes it was

Originally Posted by Zhamkyong

That by itself it's not bad.

Correct me if I am wrong here, since i saw the documental a while ago and i do not have the information fresh in my head. But i think they did that to get out of the FFXI box and see why other games were having success at the time. Where I want to get it is that there is no mistake to get ideas from other sources to renew itself, even if that game is disliked by some.

Sorry, I don't understand. Could you please rephrase?

Originally Posted by Pence

Sorry, I don't understand. Could you please rephrase?

1.0 was made as a sequel to XI without looking at how the market had changed, and what MMOs of 2010 looked like. It flopped, so Yoshi P made the Dev team play popular MMOs (not just WoW) in order to analyse the market.

Market analysis is not bad

Originally Posted by KalinOrthos

I'm looking through the patch notes and am scratching my head thinking "How can anyone consider this empty?" Now, granted, there are a lot of QoL fixes, but this patch seems packed full of stuff that multiple different players can do. So...what's the problem now?

I think peoples main issue was that they wanted eruka however u spell it , many of the other things we got where already expected, and everyone expected eruka in this patch. But we got a ton of qol stuff judging from the notes ill roll with it I still gota finish omega anyway so it is what it is

Originally Posted by Lambdafish

1.0 was made as a sequel to XI without looking at how the market had changed, and what MMOs of 2010 looked like.

From what I remember hearing, the 1.x dev team was told when development of XIV first started to not copy XI, which was awkward considering both the games Director (Nobuaki Komoto) and Producer (Hiromichi Tanaka) where both pulled from XI. They left a lot of the games direction in the hands of the dev team to try to avoid making it to similar to XI. The dev team at the time had no real experience designing MMORPGS (XI had the same issues but overcame it) and ended up obsessing over graphics instead of gameplay (the whole flower-pots having the same amount of polygons as characters thing). Add in a gaming engine that wasn't built for this type of game (Crystal Tools), the game having to be designed for both six gen and seventh gen consoles (PS3 and PS4, at least), and the companies philosophy that any problems could be patched after release, with no initial plans on solving the problem being made are what led to 1.0's downfall.

Originally Posted by KalinOrthos

I'm looking through the patch notes and am scratching my head thinking "How can anyone consider this empty?" Now, granted, there are a lot of QoL fixes, but this patch seems packed full of stuff that multiple different players can do. So...what's the problem now?

When you look at the list it may look like a lot cause its segmented text and pictures. But to easily break it down. Beast Tribe dailies, Housing, Treasure hunting(not new), Squadron can do <50 lv dungeons, Weekly 24 man, Shinryu EX, another boring 70 dungeon. Shit ton of QoL changes that doesnt change gameplay. None of these have actual substance or occupy a large amount of time to complete/invest and usually turn into a daily or weekly chore instead of something that will have to occupy the space of 4 months.

Originally Posted by Pence

Yoshi loves WoW....he even made the Dev team play it at one point for inspiration....

He even went to Blizzcon himself