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  1. #621
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    Avatar de Krotoan
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    mai 2013
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    3 591
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    Krotoan Argaviel
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Faucheur Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par KalinOrthos Voir le message
    I'm looking through the patch notes and am scratching my head thinking "How can anyone consider this empty?" Now, granted, there are a lot of QoL fixes, but this patch seems packed full of stuff that multiple different players can do. So...what's the problem now?
    The title is misleading, it should say "This patchis empty for ME".
    Content means so many different things to so many people, people are always going to complain. Devs are aware of this apparently yet they still go to work and produce for some of the most hostile customers ever.
    (5)
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  2. #622
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    Avatar de Remedi
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    fvrier 2014
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Orfèvre Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Pence Voir le message
    Yoshi loves WoW....he even made the Dev team play it at one point for inspiration....
    Both him and Koji-fox even said that the reason 1.0 flopped was partly because the dev team didn't played wow and got in touch with what was considered the king of the market
    (0)

  3. #623
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    Avatar de Zhamkyong
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    mai 2015
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    Nizbalial Vegalia
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Chevalier noir Lv 80
    Citation Envoyé par Pence Voir le message
    Yoshi loves WoW....he even made the Dev team play it at one point for inspiration....
    Citation Envoyé par Remedi Voir le message
    Both him and Koji-fox even said that the reason 1.0 flopped was partly because the dev team didn't played wow and got in touch with what was considered the king of the market
    That by itself it's not bad.

    Correct me if I am wrong here, since i saw the documental a while ago and i do not have the information fresh in my head. But i think they did that to get out of the FFXI box and see why other games were having success at the time. Where I want to get it is that there is no mistake to get ideas from other sources to renew itself, even if that game is disliked by some.
    (1)

  4. #624
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    Avatar de Remedi
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    fvrier 2014
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Orfèvre Lv 90
    Yes it was
    (0)

  5. #625
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    Avatar de Pence
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    juillet 2011
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Bravo Whiskey
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Arcaniste Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Zhamkyong Voir le message
    That by itself it's not bad.

    Correct me if I am wrong here, since i saw the documental a while ago and i do not have the information fresh in my head. But i think they did that to get out of the FFXI box and see why other games were having success at the time. Where I want to get it is that there is no mistake to get ideas from other sources to renew itself, even if that game is disliked by some.
    Sorry, I don't understand. Could you please rephrase?
    (0)

  6. #626
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    Avatar de Lambdafish
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    fvrier 2014
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    Ul-Dah
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Pence Voir le message
    Sorry, I don't understand. Could you please rephrase?
    1.0 was made as a sequel to XI without looking at how the market had changed, and what MMOs of 2010 looked like. It flopped, so Yoshi P made the Dev team play popular MMOs (not just WoW) in order to analyse the market.

    Market analysis is not bad
    (5)

  7. #627
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    Avatar de bswpayton
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    Nic Pay
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Mage blanc Lv 80
    Citation Envoyé par KalinOrthos Voir le message
    I'm looking through the patch notes and am scratching my head thinking "How can anyone consider this empty?" Now, granted, there are a lot of QoL fixes, but this patch seems packed full of stuff that multiple different players can do. So...what's the problem now?
    I think peoples main issue was that they wanted eruka however u spell it , many of the other things we got where already expected, and everyone expected eruka in this patch. But we got a ton of qol stuff judging from the notes ill roll with it I still gota finish omega anyway so it is what it is
    (3)

  8. #628
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    Avatar de Mimilu
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    novembre 2013
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    3 990
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    Mimiji Miji
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Danseur Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Lambdafish Voir le message
    1.0 was made as a sequel to XI without looking at how the market had changed, and what MMOs of 2010 looked like.
    From what I remember hearing, the 1.x dev team was told when development of XIV first started to not copy XI, which was awkward considering both the games Director (Nobuaki Komoto) and Producer (Hiromichi Tanaka) where both pulled from XI. They left a lot of the games direction in the hands of the dev team to try to avoid making it to similar to XI. The dev team at the time had no real experience designing MMORPGS (XI had the same issues but overcame it) and ended up obsessing over graphics instead of gameplay (the whole flower-pots having the same amount of polygons as characters thing). Add in a gaming engine that wasn't built for this type of game (Crystal Tools), the game having to be designed for both six gen and seventh gen consoles (PS3 and PS4, at least), and the companies philosophy that any problems could be patched after release, with no initial plans on solving the problem being made are what led to 1.0's downfall.
    (0)

  9. #629
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    Avatar de Yokotsune
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    novembre 2015
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    9
    Character
    Mentally Untouchable
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Moine Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par KalinOrthos Voir le message
    I'm looking through the patch notes and am scratching my head thinking "How can anyone consider this empty?" Now, granted, there are a lot of QoL fixes, but this patch seems packed full of stuff that multiple different players can do. So...what's the problem now?
    When you look at the list it may look like a lot cause its segmented text and pictures. But to easily break it down. Beast Tribe dailies, Housing, Treasure hunting(not new), Squadron can do <50 lv dungeons, Weekly 24 man, Shinryu EX, another boring 70 dungeon. Shit ton of QoL changes that doesnt change gameplay. None of these have actual substance or occupy a large amount of time to complete/invest and usually turn into a daily or weekly chore instead of something that will have to occupy the space of 4 months.
    (4)

  10. #630
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    Avatar de Ramen
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    avril 2012
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    Character
    Ramen Denkeim
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Occultiste Lv 62
    Citation Envoyé par Pence Voir le message
    Yoshi loves WoW....he even made the Dev team play it at one point for inspiration....
    He even went to Blizzcon himself
    (0)

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