4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

**TarynH** · 10-01-2017 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by Phireblast

It's not that this patch has no content, it's just that the content isn't built to last. Excluding raids and such, pretty much everything can be "substantially" completed day 1.

Hardly any of the content in the game is built to last, because of current mentality of play style. Which is: Get reward. Get out. It leaves a trail of dead content in its wake. The only reason people continue to grind content is for that same basic outcome (tomes), or because it offers something like experience. And the ones who don't care about having +20-25 ilevels on the (usually low) next requirement gear, wait until the new stuff comes. So they aren't grinding with the others. Making the content even more useless to them.

So as they investigate the trends in play styles, they see the majority of players are "content" with the current system. They see people will continue to grind out the same content to get "best loots" until they add something new. If that mentality stopped, there would have to be a new system. Because "best loots" or mount+1 wouldn't be rewarding enough anymore to grind out a couple of raids. This is why they have literally said that right now the current system/model is working.

"But that's how the game works!" you say. Only because the majority chooses to play it that way. The game is essentially an ilevel creep loot grab in its current state. People are better off playing something like Diablo 3, if that's all they care about. The rest grind and grind until they get a magical glowing dog, or some other mount that will be hidden away when the next one comes.

Others tend to like the offbeat content. Like Hildy, beast tribes, etc. It has a little story sometimes, and though it becomes "useless" eventually, it's different and fun to start with. Just like everything else that's new, it's an experience at first. Even if it is less rewarding, a lot of people like this type of "different" content. (And I use the term different, as opposed to grinding out dungeons.)

So yes, I can see the point of the OP. He doesn't think any of the content being added is worthwhile. It's because it won't be after awhile. Nothing in the game will be at a certain point. Even the ilevel creeping will be pointless when the game ends. Because there will be nothing to use that gear on at some point in time.

Threads like these usually never result in viable solutions to fixing the current structure of the game. It's much ado about nothing.

**Whocareswhatmynameis** · 10-01-2017 03:59 AM

You have a beast tribe getting added. You can do menial tasks for the teenage mutant reject turtles. Quit yer whinin'

Do I need to remind all the complainers that this is a Final Fantasy game??? That alone is reason enough to keep playing it.

**Aerilon** · 10-01-2017 04:12 AM

I think people need to remember that the development team just got done with a huge crunch and push to ship Storm Blood - which is a huge accomplishment. It is understandable that many of the Dev Team probably took personal time and vacation time after the launch which means the development capacity, or amount of work that can be done in a given segment of time, would be much lower than normal. Thusly patches immediately following the launch of an expansion will have less content comparatively. That's ok, these are people, they need time to reset. I for one am happy with the amount of content the team is delivering so soon after an expansion launch and applaud them at their continued excellent service which is unparalleled in the MMO industry.

**Krotoan** · 10-01-2017 04:18 AM

I've yet to see a solution for the "there's no content" complaint that doesn't boil down to : more of the stuff I like.

**KalinOrthos** · 10-01-2017 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by Krotoan

I've yet to see a solution for the "there's no content" complaint that doesn't boil down to : more of the stuff I like.

I would also like to know the answer to where they can pull more resources to build said content that they like. I'm sure they can have the graphic artists number crunch and balance the classes.

**Rita1989** · 10-01-2017 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by Krotoan

I've yet to see a solution for the "there's no content" complaint that doesn't boil down to : more of the stuff I like.

I think the complaint is less there is no content but rather there is not enough content and its starting to get stale.

Unless your the 1% doing ultimate the rest of the patch can be done in 2 weeks tops even if your taking your time.

Without a relic there are going to be a lot of people who let their sub drop and we might see a bigger drop then what happened in 3.1 which was the low point of the game since 2.0 launch so far.

**Zhamkyong** · 10-01-2017 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by Rita1989

I think the complaint is less there is no content but rather there is not enough content and its starting to get stale.

Unless your the 1% doing ultimate the rest of the patch can be done in 2 weeks tops even if your taking your time.

Without a relic there are going to be a lot of people who let their sub drop and we might see a bigger drop then what happened in 3.1 which was the low point of the game since 2.0 launch so far.

But this is a problem the devs can't solve.

No matter what type of content they put in, or how much work they put into it: There is always someone who is going to complain because of any excuse you can think of. No matter how many hours it takes to complete it, someone will always clear it in a time record. No matter the dificulty, someone will complaint that it's either too easy or too hard. Or, just like more than one has complained about, not the type of content they want to play. And even if they just, for example, go crazy and open Eureka in the next patch someone will complain because "they should have done more work in that type of content".

FFXIV it's not perfect, it has many problems, but we get regular updates at a faster rate of most of the current MMO aviable.

¿It's not enough? Go play something else, it has been said even by Yoshi-P himself. I will have enough to play for a while with the next patch and i dont plan to burn it all in a single day to then come here again and post about how bored i am already (Just to give an example). And like someone said in the pages of the post, it will be even more dificult for them to release more new content in the future.

I prefer to have quality over quantity.

**Elkanah** · 10-01-2017 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by Zhamkyong

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Re-hashing content they've consistently used for ARR, HW and SB are "quality content"? lmao. Get out. Please.

-24 man raid with weekly lock out
-dungeons and tomes for the dungeons (about 30 if we're lucky, 40 if theyre generous, 50 if they want to be crazy!) #kappa
-new and exciting tomes! #kappa
-housing
-moar beastmen tribes (y...yay) #kappa
-moar normal and savage mode with weekly lock outs (whoo!) #kappa
-moar primals and under ilvl weapons (dont forget mounts! Those 000000000000000000000000000000.1% drop rates! oh boy!) #kappa
-moar minions (cause we always want more right?) #kappa
-moar pvp modes (because about 95% of the community is asking for more pvp they won't pay attention to with the cheaters and bots lmaaaaao)
-moar relic weapon grinds! YES! JUST WHAT I ASKED FOR! #kappa
-moar shiny versions of the relic that look ugly about 85% of the time! #kappa

**PFM** · 10-01-2017 05:36 AM

MmMmmMMMMMM

1 pathetic dungeon you have to literally be drooling to not get through in under 15 minutes
Worthless beast tribes that make no impact on the world or your character
A 24 man with good concepts wasted entirely on being clearable by animals freshly escaped from the zoo
An EX primal that serves to be nothing more than catchup content for people stuck on Animal farm L to the MAO.
A filler sidequest, again no character advancement
1 fight in an entire expansion tuned for Maximum item level players.
The same content schedule the game has had for years, and the same rigid, dull advancement path.

Definitely isn't a game made for anyone who likes video games. Who is this game for? There's nothing for casual players to do and there's nothing for hardcore players to do.

Don't forget this is set to the backdrop of a raid "tier" with 2 trash mobs, and 2 bosses. How long are you going to continue being embarrassed by your competition SE? Even the trashy kMMOs are putting out more

**Remedi** · 10-01-2017 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by TarynH

Hardly any of the content in the game is built to last, because of current mentality of play style. Which is: Get reward. Get out.

This is actually the main problem until this mentality gets resolved literally nothing can be done. The nerf to Ixion farm is also dependant from it, I honestly don't get why ppl feels so compelled on getting something instantly, it wasn't like ixion was going anywhere
Ppl will say whatever they want by mistaking what they like for absolute truth without thinking about the bigger picture.
It's fine beign annoyed that eureka, relics, FC crafting revamp (yes that was a thing) are beign delayed
It's fine not feeling compelled by the redifinition of the UI (especially coming after the expansion release)
But Dissing completely on that especially when it was requested by this playerbase is wrong

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