Thread: 4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

Originally Posted by bswpayton

I raid as well doesn't mean I feel like raiders deserve a whole fight amongst themselves. Going back to the diadum example the weapon was a waste because nobody had a realistic chance of getting one. Sorry that I want content thst most players can actually take part in my mistake. squadrons was a let down five old dungeons is lame. 24 man and shiyru was a given, so that leaves super savage that's new which many people want even be doing.

Would you fancy I list the overwhelming amount of content dedicated to casual players? Like Lamb said, theme park MMOs strive to have something for everyone. If we dissect each content niche, be it crafting, gathering, roleplay, level grinds, collecting and etc, you'll quickly discover most individual content has a low percentage of interest. Why can't raiders have their small slice of the pie, especially since Savage underwent considerably nerfs since Midas? As for Diadem. People were upset because the relic weapon was no longer BiS, the 280 weapon (and Diadem itself) had enormous amounts of RNG and the design felt incredibly lazy. Personally, it's that last one which stuck out for me. If the devs had any confidence in Diadem's revival, they wouldn't have put a potential BiS weapon on a carrot.

Originally Posted by JunseiKei

One fight after four years sounds fair. Truthfully, one could argue it was overdue. Again, because it doesn't suit your tastes, it's simply not content.

Yes. One fight after four years.

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I never said it wasnt for me or that I never would try it if I got to it , I was simply sayin that its not content for the majority of players that play the game and that most people never will touch this. I wasnt here but Ive heard that a3s was pretty challenging, so was a8s, so this isnt like oh the first challenging fight you have ever gotten. I dont mind the fact that this exist but you come with this content, and literallly give the same exact stuff we would have gotten regardless because SE repeats itself and I know this from just simply playin a years time already use to the trend.

A house is not content thats something else we are getting , I have a house as well I thats not content thats like calling glamour content. The way they make it look, is that they spent like a year rehashing an old fight for .001 of the player base, takin away a dungeon, and not coming out with any sort of anima type weapon. I dont think anyone would have a word to say if they didnt always boastler what they are doing when its really just more of the same stuff, and im ok wit the same I love the game. But sometimes the devs boast to much and make themselves look inconsistent when they dont deliver, Im hoping that super savage is unclearable by most that way they would have actually kept their word on that part at least. But telling us they where removing a dungeon to give more stuff that they already would have given us anyway is just not true and I think thats more so the issue that people have.

Originally Posted by bswpayton

I never said it wasnt for me or that I never would try it if I got to it , I was simply sayin that its not content for the majority of players that play the game and that most people never will touch this. I wasnt here but Ive heard that a3s was pretty challenging, so was a8s, so this isnt like oh the first challenging fight you have ever gotten. I dont mind the fact that this exist but you come with this content, and literallly give the same exact stuff we would have gotten regardless because SE repeats itself and I know this from just simply playin a years time already use to the trend.

A house is not content thats something else we are getting , I have a house as well I thats not content thats like calling glamour content. The way they make it look, is that they spent like a year rehashing an old fight for .001 of the player base, takin away a dungeon, and not coming out with any sort of anima type weapon. I dont think anyone would have a word to say if they didnt always boastler what they are doing when its really just more of the same stuff, and im ok wit the same I love the game. But sometimes the devs boast to much and make themselves look inconsistent when they dont deliver, Im hoping that super savage is unclearable by most that way they would have actually kept their word on that part at least. But telling us they where removing a dungeon to give more stuff that they already would have given us anyway is just not true and I think thats more so the issue that people have.

Your entire post can literally be summarized as, "I have this, so to me, this patch brings nothing for me to do, so it's not content." You're all too willing to dismiss inclusion for other people as content based solely on you, like the game revolves around you.

It doesn't.

Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Your entire post can literally be summarized as, "I have this, so to me, this patch brings nothing for me to do, so it's not content." You're all too willing to dismiss inclusion for other people as content based solely on you, like the game revolves around you.

It doesn't.

who said it revolved around me but I certainly know it doesn't revolve around people whom do super savage either so I dont really understand ur point. Like I said super savage is for a handful of people and streamers to show on youtube Id hardly call that content but you can if you want to. You know farming 2000 hunts , is content as well to get a mount, everything in the game is literally content, runnin around in a circle is content on the game, just because a few people can do it doesnt mean its worth not having an alternative for everyone else.

Dont really see how thats very hard to understand , this has nothing to do with me if everyone was of ur pov that this patch is so amazing then this thread wouldnt be going on for 400 plus replies. Correction for your average player there was literally nothing new that we wouldnt have already gotten anyway to have lost somethings in return in 4.1 maybe that is better wording for you.

If FFXIV did rehauls of jobs as radical as you claim WoW has and does regularly, I think much of the playerbase would bail, or we'd see a similar "vanilla or not" phenomenon as WoW has. Even with the level cap increases and role pool consolidation, jobs haven't changed on a deep, fundamental level.

This is an appealing feature of FFXIV since we don't need to constantly learn a new job unless we choose to. If we leave the game for some reason, we can just pick it back up no problem. This is by design.

It's called accessibility.

if 4.1 actually fixes the game a bit, actually dresses inventory issues, and such it is fine.

However my understanding is that 4.1 is only starting to address it, not solve, so I am not sure how good the changes are for waiting this long. I really think FFXIV needs some parallel progress progression, because the high turn over rate in gear is insane.

It's more than likely also a ton of assets for future content. (base coding for Eureka and the new Relic) As an immediate it seems minimal; but we'll see what the actual patch holds at release.

Originally Posted by bswpayton

I raid as well doesn't mean I feel like raiders deserve a whole fight amongst themselves. Going back to the diadum example the weapon was a waste because nobody had a realistic chance of getting one. Sorry that I want content thst most players can actually take part in my mistake. squadrons was a let down five old dungeons is lame. 24 man and shiyru was a given, so that leaves super savage that's new which many people want even be doing.

Why not?
It's your choice to not do it. I don't pvp, yet I don't complain that pvper have a whole part of the game to themselves. From my perspective that's dead content to me as well, but if there are people who enjoy it, why not have it? It's a huge themepark, not everything is for everyone, you go and pick what is for you.

On topic: I don't feel like we're getting less content, just I've been playing for so long, all content feels used and old. I'd appreciate something new, fresh and challenging.