Thread: 4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

Originally Posted by PotatoTree

2.5 had a good amount of content too. A lot of 2.xx patches were not bad. I don't expect another 2.1, but we're getting less and less content per expansion. We're getting less dungeons, less trials, less beast tribes, less pretty much everything.



Sure if it was free, but we're paying quite a bit of money. Sure you can say just stop and don't pay, but that's the lazy solution.

you're paying about as much as a lunch per month + whatever initial invesment you made for the base game. I wouldn't call that a lot, subjective I guess though. What you're paying for though is server maintenance costs and all that entails: bandwidth, GMs, customer service. It isn't cheap running a multiple hundreds of thousand accounts server. Stopping paying isn't lazy and I'm sad you think it is. It's the most powerful tool you have for showing your displeasure. STOP PAYING. If you keep paying and maybe post a biting comment on the forums it gets a hell of a lot less attention than the fallout of people dropping off of recurring payments. You want 2.1 levels of attention? Recreate the crisis.

Originally Posted by ErryK

Defense, counterargument, whatever term you prefer.

The only difference is we're not getting 2 dungeons, and we're getting one less trial.

The two dungeons are reused from 2.0, Amdapor Keep and Wanderer's Palace, and then the two trials haven't much replay value anyways. I guess the only argument you could make is Postmoogle quests, but those last shorter than the MSQ, which is already being shortened to something like 5-8 quests so there's not too many by the end.

I think that if the new PvP mode and Eureka had been delivered on time, people wouldn't be as upset and concerned. It's a shame that they got pushed back, but I'm HOPING that means they learned from past mistakes like Diadem and are doing things right the first time. Time will tell, obviously. Those were both supposed to make it into 4.1, though the PvP content won't be TOO far behind...1 month, roughly. Biggest issue is Eureka. A lot of people were looking forward to that, myself included.

Originally Posted by ErryK

2.1 is patch 2.0+1, because it was all the stuff they could not add upon 2.0's release. Stop using it as a defense.

To be fair 4.1 is partially the same way, the new pvp mode was delayed from 4.0 and guessing they intentionally delayed Shirogane housing until 4.1 so the patch looks more beefy and keeps people subscribed into 4.1

Time won't tell much, if Eureka is a flop people will find new excuses to defend the fact that we're getting less.