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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Maybe if you had actually posted a constructive thread (oh why the edit after all?) your thread would have been better received as opposed to the flame bait that it was.
    Personally, I quite like to post threads that have little in the way of my own opinions outside of the topic of the thread so that I might see people's personal opinions first, untarnished by my own, before finally going back and posting my own feelings on the matter. I find that through doing this I am able to better get my points across on the subject. Often times people will post ideas that will resonate with me strongly, so that I might better articulate my own, or even ones in opposition that are worded so powerfully that I find myself agreeing with them.

    Unfortunately all I walked away with this time is that World of Warcraft players are happy to get less than what we're getting, and that the community should be more like World of Warcraft players and just enjoy what they are given.
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    Last edited by Alash; 09-30-2017 at 11:43 AM.

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    I just read the edit of the op's first post which runs down every piece of content in the game and says they all sucks / are irrelevant to people with a brain. So what do we want the game to be? Remove all casual content and put all resources into an increased amount of savage raid bosses?

    A lot of people do actually like the casual and midcore content... hildibrand, alliance raid, primal ex, etc. I think you're setting an impossible standard by saying 99% of content is not good enough.

    I don't know if anyone here has ever worked on a major entertainment product with millions of users but... can you imagine how hard it would be to create something that all kinds of people will love. It's a lot easier to tear down than it is to come up with a better idea.
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    Really, what we're actually dealing with is the two-fold issue of SE sticking to their guns on keeping with the fourteen week schedule, despite some of the planned content not yet being ready, and the heavy amount of dev time that has to go into further balancing jobs and completing a large backlog of QoL fixes.

    Basically, a substancial chunk of 4.1 is intangible stuff that will help the game in the long run. It's needed, but for a player like you who *seems to me* to be focussed on raw combat progression and gear, I can absolutely see the dissapointment.

    So, while there are mountains of side content and small things to work on, they don't build up your iLVL, so it's not priority. Am I on the nose?
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    Last edited by Ametrine; 09-30-2017 at 11:59 AM.

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    Regarding the first half of your edited post, the purpose of odd-numbered patch content is to help people catch up so they can get ready for the current savage raid faster or the next even-numbered patch. It's also a good alternative to gear up alt jobs.

    Don't expect odd-numbered patches to cater to midcore or hardcore players. It's made for casual players, who are the majority of the playerbase, so it's going to be relevant to a lot more people than non-casuals.
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    OP I could only like that post once but want you to know I liked it enough for more.

    While I might not agree with everything you said you said it all so well and it was so funny. I literally laughed out loud. Not like "dead eyed stating at my phone typing lol" like "laying in bed with my dog and boyfriend while they are angry at me for laughing so much".

    Good job.
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    So... all the OP's edit really does just boil down to their opinion it seems. The patch has PLENTY of content, just none of it appeals to his raid centric ego.

    Can you at least change the title or something to "4.1 - The emptiest patch yet for me"? You know, something not entirely misleading and full of bait?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosalynd View Post
    So... all the OP's edit really does just boil down to their opinion it seems. The patch has PLENTY of content, just none of it appeals to his raid centric ego.

    Can you at least change the title or something to "4.1 - The emptiest patch yet for me"? You know, something not entirely misleading and full of bait?
    I dont think its incorrect though, this is going to be the most bare patch we are ever going to receive in the games existence so far its hard to deny that.

    It really needed to have Eureka in this patch cycle without it most people will be checked out by November
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    I dont think its incorrect though, this is going to be the most bare patch we are ever going to receive in the games existence so far its hard to deny that.
    3.22 says hi: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...9cc307c28477e3
    (entirely focused around PVP changes. So if you dont do PVP good luck finding "new" stuff)

    And 3.1 says hi http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...c91d884c6b6a84
    (too early to properly tell but on a rough estimation it's deffinetely around the same mark as 4.1 in terms of content, if not beneath)


    You might wanna rephrase what you said, or did you come here just to play doomsayer?
    And yes, both of my examples are to tackle both the litteral, and subjective idea of 4.1 being content bare.
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    Last edited by Lazaruz; 09-30-2017 at 03:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazaruz View Post
    I mean this with no malice, or threat whatsoever. But I'm gonna give you the curteousy of either rephrasing those words, or taking them back before I slam the book on just how wrong you are with that statement (Atleast working by preliminary assumptions, as we do not know how far they extended things like the MSQ, and we wont know untill patch notes)
    Go ahead and try and the MSQ takes 1-2 days to get through max its not what keeps people invested over an entire patch period

    We just had a live letter that went over everything we are getting this patch there is no surprises coming before the patch notes come out.


    eDIT:

    3.22 is a partial patch , 3.2 is a main patch try again

    3.1 had 2 dungeons, ex primal, 1 raid, diadam, beastquests, LoV and got relic in 3.15

    4.1 has 1 dungeon. 1 raid, ex primal, ultimate, beastquest and pvp in 4.15(in 3.0 we got new pvp mode before 3.1)

    3.1 failed because the content failed ultimately not that it was lacking
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    Last edited by Rita1989; 09-30-2017 at 05:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    Go ahead and try and the MSQ takes 1-2 days to get through max its not what keeps people invested over an entire patch period
    You're right. It's not like they're also adding
    • A 24man raid,
    • Ultimate Savage (to satisfy the absolute 1% players),
    • New dungeon.
    • New Custom Deliveries (for crafters).
    • Ability to use your Adventurer Squadron to better level jobs you might want but are bellow 50 (god knows I have atleast 1 that I'd be glad to finally get outof the way)
    • New EX mode primal
    • New Beast Tribe
    • And a new housing district (techniqly only opening it up for plot purchase)

    Totally just the MSQ being added, yup yup

    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    3.1 failed because the content failed ultimately not that it was lacking
    Tut tut. That's not the argument being made. Either stay on target, or know when to back down

    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    4.1 has 1 dungeon. 1 raid, ex primal, ultimate, beastquest and pvp in 4.15(in 3.0 we got new pvp mode before 3.1)
    And here we go. Hard proof that you're incapable of seeing beyond what might give you that oh so precious ilevel boost.
    Or you wouldnt have omitted the....
    • Hidlibrand sidequests,
    • Shirogane being released to the public
    • and new Stormblood tiered Custom Deliveries

    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    3.22 is a partial patch
    A patch is a patch.
    Your entire point is 4.1 will add the least ammount of content to the game ever outof any patch, both past and present

    You did not say major patch. You did not say partial patch excluded. You did not say story/raid/etc patch only.

    Hence, 3.22 says hi to your rather blatant case of hyperbole.

    This is why I gave you the opening to rephrase. And it's why I had two examples, to counter both the litteral, and non litteral meaning of what you said.
    I'd advise you to next time not spit in peoples face when they're trying to be nice

    And I have no idea why you even mention 3.2, to then go on and adress 3.1 due to it being the one I actually mentioned.
    Slip of the tongue, or ill concieved attempt to divert from my counter argument?
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    Last edited by Lazaruz; 09-30-2017 at 04:10 PM.

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