Thread: 4.1 - The emptiest patch yet.

Originally Posted by Rita1989

Super Savage will be cleared in under a week by world 1st groups most likely there is no ilvl increase this patch and they are BiS on everything

I'll be shocked if Angered doesn't have Ultimate dead within 10-20 hours after release.

It's a good patch, it's not my fault you don't do high-end content. You really think us raiders are okay with just weekly clears of O1S-O4S savage for 6 months? Get real.

We get more content, Shinryu Extreme and Coil Ultimate. More content to last.

As I posted for Creator Savage, high-end raiding is almost a decent percentage staple on JP servers, then you get to NA where the clear rates are really low. Yet they made the difficulty about the same as Creator, and yet people still can't clear. Just because you don't like the content, doesn't mean it doesn't matter to a good chunk of people who play this game. Wake up.

Originally Posted by missybee

You really think two fights are going to keep people engaged for months?

Shinryu will be mid-core content, and Unending is just for bragging rights as far as I recall. If it is truly as hard as it purports to be, statics will fall apart trying to clear it since the incentive is minimal.

yeah because suddenly everyone has cleared v4 and savage doesn't exist, please.

Originally Posted by MyaValentine

yeah because suddenly everyone has cleared v4 and savage doesn't exist, please.

Wow, I didn't realize what I said was so offensive.

At this point, most mid-core statics should be pretty close to clearing Neo Eggs-D, so it exists - but barely? We'll soon be in that phase where most statics clear the entirety of Deltascape Savage on reset day and then sort of unenthusiastically do the 24-man to help gear up other jobs.

So statics will get together to likely beat Shinryu after spending a few hours familiarizing themselves with the fight, and then a fair few will forego Unending Coil altogether?

I wasn't trying to be hyperbolic. The person I responded to was insinuating that this patch has a lot to offer for raiders, and I simply disagree.

Originally Posted by missybee

Wow, I didn't realize what I said was so offensive.

At this point, most mid-core statics should be pretty close to clearing Neo Eggs-D, so it exists - but barely? We'll soon be in that phase where most statics clear the entirety of Deltascape Savage on reset day and then sort of unenthusiastically do the 24-man to help gear up other jobs.

So statics will get together to likely beat Shinryu after spending a few hours familiarizing themselves with the fight, and then a fair few will forego Unending Coil altogether?

I wasn't trying to be hyperbolic. The person I responded to was insinuating that this patch has a lot to offer for raiders, and I simply disagree.

what are you talking about offensive? nice try.

at this point there are still thousands of people (idk what mid-core is) who are not even close to beat V3 let alone V4 that you need a solid static to clear and farm, not only that there even more people still farming the gears an weapons not only that there will be pleeenty of people doing v4 only for the mount and there will be lots of people tryong to clea v4 only to get access to ultimate. on top of that ultimate will have it's own weapon that people will probably farm and shinryu is going to be like thordan so pleas get your overxagerating statements out of the forums you seriusly have absolutely no knowledge how the end-gam emvironment works with our community if anything this patch added more longetivity than any other patch since the hard-core community who has farmed and beaten savage will come back for ultimate something that has never done in the previous odd patch cicles as they just leave and come back for the new raid tier.

Originally Posted by missybee

You really think two fights are going to keep people engaged for months?

Shinryu will be mid-core content, and Unending is just for bragging rights as far as I recall. If it is truly as hard as it purports to be, statics will fall apart trying to clear it since the incentive is minimal.

Plenty of raiders still clear Neo for parses or to run on alt jobs. Shinryu will be kept alive by the mount farm.

Originally Posted by missybee

You really think two fights are going to keep people engaged for months?

Shinryu will be mid-core content, and Unending is just for bragging rights as far as I recall. If it is truly as hard as it purports to be, statics will fall apart trying to clear it since the incentive is minimal.

Savage still exists for those still cracking on O3S/O4S and to get into Ultimate.

Weekly savage clears still will happen for more free gear, we do doggie farms on another raid day since we clear all of savage in two hours every week. Who knows how long progression will last in Ultimate, but it's certainly fresh content every 3 months instead of 6. So yes, it will last and a third doggie once progression is over.

I was going to post something bigger about this but... I will pass. There is no way the Devs are going to please everyone at this point when someone decides to bash an entire patch before it's release, again. So, i am going to lie back, grab a drink, and keep reading about people who complaint about everything because they dont have what they wanted to.

To be fair some parts of the game can only be added once.
Also I find that countering ppl argument by saying that they are white knighting the game not beign that much valid one could say the same by telling you are simply hating.
Granted they did fuck it up by delaying Eureka imho, they should've made an HM to compensate but the reaction of the forum is a confirmation of my idea that If SE were to ever so slight derail from the hated formula, ppl would complain regardless.