Monk ignored for 4.1

**Silver-Strider** · 10-06-2017 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by Lastelli

MNK's current situation doesn't even compare. But anyway, when I said "simple changes" I mean that those changes were simple to implement. However, many people are asking for a tackle mastery rework (I totally agree that trait is just silly), which would require a completely new mechanic to be added to the current MNK's rotation. Others are asking for a RoF rework and this would require a total rebalancing of weaponskills potency, so it's not easy at all to implement. Some are asking for GL4 instead of the current RoF, but this would require to change brotherhood as well since the gcd clipping for tfc would become a big issue in that case, or alternatively they should adjust its cd so you won't use it during GL4 (but they'd still need to adjust all the potencies to make it work).

I just want to say that a lot of this is pretty BS (no offense)

Tackle Mastery wouldn't really require an new mechanic be added to it. It could be something as simple as granting a Chakra stack on using Shoulder Tackle and the trait would be solid, just like the Trait BRDs have with Empyreal Arrow to guarantee that their song effect occurs.
DRG is getting the bonus of Heavy Thrust reduced and the rest of it's toolkit is being readjusted so there goes that argument that it would be hard to rework Riddle of Fire in a similar way.
Changing RoF into GL4 might be a stretch though as that might involve slightly more effort but than again, if Shake it off can be changed from a move that removes detrimental effects into a Bubble that trades away our other buffs for a Bigger Shield, I'm not seeing the argument for changing RoF into something else as completely farfetched either.

**Lastelli** · 10-06-2017 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

I just want to say that a lot of this is pretty BS (no offense)

Tackle Mastery wouldn't really require an new mechanic be added to it. It could be something as simple as granting a Chakra stack on using Shoulder Tackle and the trait would be solid, just like the Trait BRDs have with Empyreal Arrow to guarantee that their song effect occurs.

But that wouldn't change MNK's current gameplay at all. You'd just have 1 more chakra every 30 seconds. Since people are complaining about 4.x MNK lack of novelty (and a few other things), I assume that they want something new instead of such a simplistic effect. I mean, 1 more chakra every 30 seconds sounds very disappointing for a job that basically didn't get anything new in its rotation since arr.

**Silver-Strider** · 10-06-2017 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by Lastelli

But that wouldn't change MNK's current gameplay at all. You'd just have 1 more chakra every 30 seconds. Since people are complaining about 4.x MNK lack of novelty (and a few other things), I assume that they want something new instead of such a simplistic effect. I mean, 1 more chakra every 30 seconds sounds very disappointing for a job that basically didn't get anything new in its rotation since arr.

Would still be an improvement over the current Tackle Mastery that MNK has which currently serves next to no purpose other than a slight potency upgrade to Shoulder Tackle in its current state. Realistically, we just want the job to feel like it's progressing, which it doesn't currently feel like it's doing. The Chakra mechanic was a step in the right direction but was never really built up on; It only has Forbidden Chakra and Purification, the later of which is now fairly useless since MNK rarely has TP issues anymore. Had SE gone on to build onto the Chakra mechanic as opposed to the half-baked mess MNK got in SB, we might actually have something interesting.

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