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    I don't tank, so I couldn't really say what would provide incentive for them to queue up for 50/60 dungeons. EXP only goes so far. You don't want to toss in rewards that are acquired elsewhere if it threatens to make it obsolete. Glamour incentive only lasts until it's obtained. Mats will attract crafters to queue, but not all of them will tank. Ventures, tomes, gil... all are things that most can take or leave.

    Perhaps what's needed is something new? Perhaps random drops that can spawn S ranks or something? Maps that can be soloed so they don't have to level a gatherer or buy them from MB? Introduce new dyes and toss them in there? Just a few suggestions off of the top of my head.
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    IF
    Those tanks already got all 3 tanks job at 70.
    OR
    they're already got enough poetics to gear up their other jobs.
    Then
    There is no reason for them to queue 50/60 Roulette at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kahnom View Post
    IF
    Those tanks already got all 3 tanks job at 70.
    OR
    they're already got enough poetics to gear up their other jobs.
    Then
    There is no reason for them to queue 50/60 Roulette at all.
    only time you may run it is level 60 tbh, if at 60 you can just queue for normal library, is more still, i think.

    that is basically why no one does them, it is a maybe questionable filler to do at level 60 ONLY, once your 61 + its just leveling/ highest @level df

    before 58, its deep
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    Pretty much have all three tanks at 70 so no reason to do 50/60 roullette. If i want credit for mount its more efficient to spam susano xD
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    Just tossing it out there... but you can queue simply to help the community get into instances?

    Does everything have to have an incentive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Just tossing it out there... but you can queue simply to help the community get into instances?

    Does everything have to have an incentive?
    Why do tank players have an obligation to queue for roulette they do not care for? The happiness of other players is not part of my equation when I factor how I want to spend my play time.

    I do my best when I am in the dungeon, but I am not about to jump into PF just because someone was shouting for a missing tank.
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    Player
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Panda View Post
    Why do tank players have an obligation to queue for roulette they do not care for? The happiness of other players is not part of my equation when I factor how I want to spend my play time.

    I do my best when I am in the dungeon, but I am not about to jump into PF just because someone was shouting for a missing tank.
    I never said they did have an obligation to do so. I merely mentioned it as a selfless means to help out the community considering you can end a 20+ minute queue for 1-3 other players or replace a lost tank in an instant. I understand such a player would exist in the extreme minority. That's why I said I'm just tossing it out there. I wonder how many you got as you leveled any of your DPS and/or healer classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I never said they did have an obligation to do so. I merely mentioned it as a selfless means to help out the community considering you can end a 20+ minute queue for 1-3 other players or replace a lost tank in an instant. I understand such a player would exist in the extreme minority. That's why I said I'm just tossing it out there. I wonder how many you got as you leveled any of your DPS and/or healer classes.
    A better solution is for the devs to make 50/60 appealing. Honestly, I dislike them more due to how many jobs suffer now when synced down in level. Astro, Dark Knight, Dragoon and Scholar are awful at 50, for instance. Now if I could farm craft/gather clusters, I wouldn't mind, but otherwise I don't want to touch 50/60 more than once a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    A better solution is for the devs to make 50/60 appealing. Honestly, I dislike them more due to how many jobs suffer now when synced down in level. Astro, Dark Knight, Dragoon and Scholar are awful at 50, for instance. Now if I could farm craft/gather clusters, I wouldn't mind, but otherwise I don't want to touch 50/60 more than once a day.
    I don't think the lack of incentives is the only reason, the loss of abilities due to level sync also strips away any kind of desire to be there. It has been suggested in other topics to allow watered down versions of 50+/60+ abilities in synced content, and perhaps that could be looked into.

    I am actually surprised that clusters are not offered as rewards already.
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    Tigore Collson
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I can agree with you that the queue time is a bit high for DPS and Healers since I am doing them for leveling my classes. As for rewards to encourage more people to queue for it, these are the ideas I have so far.

    - award creation tomes for player classes at level cap
    - boost the exp reward for everyone
    - buff the adventurer in need to offer an addition item like Aetheryte Tickets
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