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  1. #341
    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    "You can beat your average monster with about 5 or 6 weapon skills, so your typical battle wraps up in around 15 or 20 seconds."

    Yep, no longer fights... darn.
    Except 15-20 seconds is almost double what it takes to kill an average level mob now and five weaponskills is more than it takes now, even for a Paladin. Try harder.
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  2. #342
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    Oh, I was more responding to his comment about levels. I'm all for longer fights, I just don't think a group of level 50's should be able to knock down a (for example) level 75 mob at all no matter how long it takes. Assuming you don't leash abuse that is.
    It takes away the sense of "I'm a baddie and I can kill anything" and puts you in your place in the world.
    Ya, solo, but as a group... You shouldn't be one shotted by a level 65 mob. Like you do now.
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  3. #343
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    Except 15-20 seconds is almost double what it takes to kill an average level mob now and five weaponskills is more than it takes now, even for a Paladin. Try harder.
    I will.
    Everyone starts with tp, 5 people can just go up and do all their ws. BAM it's dead in 1 second.
    then it goes into gather mobs, do all aoe attacks. Now it's aoe spam fest still.

    I think he was talking about solo. Not with a party.
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    Last edited by Rokien; 08-31-2012 at 01:58 PM.

  4. #344
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    Rui Oran
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Ya, solo, but as a group... You shouldn't be one shotted by a level 65 mob. Like you do now.
    Considering all of the important mobs in Castrum Novum are 60+, and people farm those. That's clearly not a problem.

    In fact most of the primals are level 60 or so, too.
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    I'm all for longer fights for bosses and NM but for regular mobs I want it to go fast, go from mob to mob quickly. So I like what Yoshi is doing with the combat.
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  6. #346
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    I will.
    Everyone starts with tp, 5 people can just go up and do all their ws. BAM it's dead in 1 second.
    then it goes into gather mobs, do all aoe attacks. Now it's aoe spam fest still.

    I think he was talking about solo. Not with a party.

    well you all do remember just the natalan times or what?


    do you even remember killing mobs in guildleves? solo or in small groups? seriously not.
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  7. #347
    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    I will.
    Everyone starts with tp, 5 people can just go up and do all their ws. BAM it's dead in 1 second.
    then it goes into gather mobs, do all aoe attacks. Now it's aoe spam fest still.

    I think he was talking about solo. Not with a party.
    ...are you purposely trying to be stupid? (Rhetorical question)

    If you, solo, can kill a mob in 5 weaponskills, you should NOT be fighting those same mobs in a group. In what world are you fighting easily soloable mobs in a party of eight? I'll tell you where. In a world where you're doing it wrong.
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  8. #348
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    Luna Sushima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    ...are you purposely trying to be stupid? (Rhetorical question)

    If you, solo, can kill a mob in 5 weaponskills, you should NOT be fighting those same mobs in a group. In what world are you fighting easily soloable mobs in a party of eight? I'll tell you where. In a world where you're doing it wrong.
    Your level 10 and your killing level 16ish mobs solo.. you go and kill Level 23-25ish with a group of 8 people.
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  9. #349
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    Elrond Peredhel
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    As THM you should be doign levels at least 2 higher. 4 preferred which legthens the fights.

    Can grind non leve ones that will be harder to take down.
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  10. #350
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    Adahna Serafi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Ya, solo, but as a group... You shouldn't be one shotted by a level 65 mob. Like you do now.
    I've killed a level 68 Moboro (spelling?) with 3 other friends. PLD WHM BRD BLM. Kited it on pld and we killed it in like under 5 min or so. Asking for more is asking for god mode. No thank you.

    And don't say kiting doesn't count because it does. I got hit every time I would provoke + flash.
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    Last edited by AmyNeudaiz; 09-01-2012 at 05:48 AM.

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