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  1. #321
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    Lum's Avatar
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    Moe Jax
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    20 seconds is way too long. I want it down to 10 seconds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
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  2. #322
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    ...my Paladin in full tank gear and no DD gear can kill a level 50 mob in 10 seconds or less. 20 seconds is a huge increase.
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  3. #323
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    Teisha Linne
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    You're taking the 20s comment too seriously and literally. There are too many factors to be taken into consideration.
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  4. #324
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    TaalAzura's Avatar
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    Taal Kheru
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    THe battles should be considerably longer, at least closer to cap. Perhaps not as long as XI's battles were, but much longer than they are now. Battles should be "dynamic" in the sense that they take strategy and you're constantly doing something, not "spam TP/MP moves on a large group of mobs".
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  5. #325
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    Klefth Reinhart
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    Why not just let me one-shot any normal mob with any WS already?

    Combat doesn't need to be any faster than it already is...
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  6. #326
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    Starlord's Avatar
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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klefth View Post
    Why not just let me one-shot any normal mob with any WS already?

    Combat doesn't need to be any faster than it already is...
    Faster attacking does not equal Faster Killing. You can attack faster but the HP of the Mob could be higher than what it is now. They only made attacking faster to feel more " Action" in the game nothing more nothing less. That does not mean we kill kill the mob with 1 shot in fact Yoshi-P said you could kill 1 Mob with 5 Weaponskills ( depending on what level you are and what level the mob is, determines how fast you kill the mob).
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  7. #327
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    Alec Temet
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    For the record, I voted for longer fights. To be clear though, I mean that within reason. To cite an overused example, in FFXI, exp fights (the metric I assume Yoshi-P is using) take between 10s[Colibri] and 70s[Crabs]. Obviously your mileage may very, but that was the average length from my experience. That means that Yoshi-P's purported "20s fights" are actually pretty reasonable. At most, I would like to see closer to 30s fights rather than 20s.
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  8. #328
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    Nikita's Avatar
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    Her Majesty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Yet you post in here bumping it. Why not just stop posting in it?

    Also, come on, 20second fights!?! YOSHI!!!!
    Why should I care if your threads get bumped? Yoshi-P probably put you on ignore a while ago.
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  9. #329
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    Teakwood's Avatar
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    Vai Greystone
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    Zalera
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I'm concerned about the effectiveness of debuffs in a system where most mobs go down like it's half-off day at the Miner's Guild. Then again since there's probably not going to be a class devoted to debuffs, it's not like people wouldn't have something to do vs. trash mobs, and then use debuffs vs. bosses.

    I prefer slower-paced systems, aesthetically speaking, but the debuff thing is my only real mechanical concern.

    Edit: As some people have mentioned in the thread, I feel like 'faster fights' is being exaggerated a bit. We'll have to wait and see when we have more gameplay footage / the beta gets rolled out.
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    Last edited by Teakwood; 08-18-2012 at 12:48 AM.
    7UP!


  10. #330
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    Mort Strife
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by TaalAzura View Post
    THe battles should be considerably longer, at least closer to cap. Perhaps not as long as XI's battles were, but much longer than they are now. Battles should be "dynamic" in the sense that they take strategy and you're constantly doing something, not "spam TP/MP moves on a large group of mobs".
    Well said! Agree!

    Atleast while you are in a party, it should require longer battles, so you can have interesting gameplay/combat. Tactics!

    When you are soloing i wouldent mind shorter fights! Id say 20 sec while soloing.
    40 sec when in full group. Of course that would mean that when in party, you have to face higher level mobs to be efficient.
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    Last edited by Mort; 08-18-2012 at 01:20 AM.

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