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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxanna View Post
    off-topic and inflammatory replies are just fine, but it's Rokien
    I have less respect for people who run into any/all of his threads to just mock him and not even attempt to discuss the topic at hand.

    At least Rokien plays his idea out instead of calling people names, it's absurd how large of a following has gathered to hate on a single user on the forums and instead of combating his ideas with your own you just spew vitrol. I don't always agree with the guy but he has every right to post on this forum that we do.

    We need to start treating eachother with respect, it's something sorely lacking on the entire forums and people are all too quick to jump to insults and hyperbole when they don't agree with someone. If you don't agree with an idea you are free to tell us why you think it's a bad idea and why ____ is better.

    Better yet tell us what you would do instead of saying "It's good right now guys" everyone should at least have something to add to the system wether it's a great idea or not. We are all here to discuss the game not post image macros and look like 4chan trolls.
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    What Jynx said.

    People are being complete d*cks to him. As what the moderator said in the other thread, there is no constructive criticism in his threads, let alone ANYTHING constructive to the topic. They focus on getting as many likes as they can by making some smart comment like in every other Rokien thread.

    I don't agree with Rokien all the time, but I don't treat him like trash and walk all over him. Grow the **** up people. Give something to the thread or don't reply. It's that freaking simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    What Jynx said.

    People are being complete d*cks to him. As what the moderator said in the other thread, there is no constructive criticism in his threads, let alone ANYTHING constructive to the topic. They focus on getting as many likes as they can by making some smart comment like in every other Rokien thread.

    I don't agree with Rokien all the time, but I don't treat him like trash and walk all over him. Grow the **** up people. Give something to the thread or don't reply. It's that freaking simple.
    creating constructive debates is one thing, over flooding the forum with topics which have been discussed time and time again in better threads is not necessary. Look at his thread history, look at the repetition he build for himself. They're always the same paranoia discussions most of the time which is what people is getting tired of.
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    want longer fights? go level a gladiator or paladin, lol.

    but i do agree, some parties back when i was leveling up would just have a mob down before more than 3 people got to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    So, I'm wondering if people would like longer fights. The reason why I bring this up is, the fights are REALLY short in this game. I'm leveling up thm and the only spells I use are; Thunder, Thundara, which makes the mobs go down. There really isn't any reason for me to use the other spells/abilities or combos(can you even get combos off?). Which will bring me to my next point, longer fights will teach you how to use those other abilities. If things go wrong, you will also learn what to do in a panic situation for ifrit,moogle, and other big fights. The longer fights would have adjusted exp for em as well. So, the whole "Get less exp" argument is out of the window as well.

    So, would you guys like longer fights that are more engaging?

    Vote NO here!
    THM is easy to level, no point in using that as a comparison, try glad or arch instead.
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    not quiet sure what all the drama is about, but I would like reply to the original question. Simple Answer, YES. As far as slowing down lvling, soo what? even if they slowed it down by 50% anyone can solo to 50 in a week at least , and thats with 4-6 hour days. this game is missing the presenence of one simple factor that keeps gamers playing, that factor is, a sense of acomplisment. The only real sense of acomplishment right is building a kick ass set of gear. Wich dosent realy apply considering that if a player soo wished, they could buy their gil and then buy their gear. Some of the droped gear is nice but the rest is kinda just a trophey imo. I have no inventory space for tropheys much less time to attain them. I am too busy trying to build doh/dol jobs in order to build my own gear without spending every gil i save. YAWN!!! I will say, I am looking foward to (Extreme) Ifrit, just hope there is no "speed run" reward. Wana give hard core players an insentive? Just make the fight a challange for even the best geared , talented players and call it good. by adding a speed run mode, they take away from their own ability to tune a fight to epic standards. Make Ifrit hit like CC, regen twice as fast as hard mode, and take half the damage, hell if they wanted to realy fuck with the hard core players , se could make Ifrit invunerable to magic damage , LMFAO! I can hear the crys now. Let the ; ; begin...
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    IMO longer fights doesn't fit with the chain system.

    I'm pretty sure that what was intended is fighting multiple ennemie one after another.

    Also there are some ennemies that are longer to kill already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randelmire View Post
    IMO longer fights doesn't fit with the chain system.

    I'm pretty sure that what was intended is fighting multiple ennemie one after another.

    Also there are some ennemies that are longer to kill already.
    You do know they got that system from ffxi right? It worked just fine.
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    Last edited by Rokien; 07-05-2012 at 02:12 AM.

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    Mort Strife
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    I agree with longer fights, they are very fast now. Partying at strongholds, aoeing, easy chains. Not for me..

    But its not like i want super long fights. Maybe something inbetween.

    Personaly i would like party battles being longer then solo battles. There should be time for strategical moves, positioning etc.

    Im waiting idle to see how combat will change in 2.0, cant wait to see how it turns out.
    Maybe not much will change, i would be rather disapointed.
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    People have treated Rokien with respect before, discussed his thread properly and all that, but everyone have their limit on how much stupidity they can take from a single person, especially since Rokien doesnt take no for an answer, if he wish others would treat him with respect, start treating others opinion with respect as well, Rokien may not have used foul language but to be respectful means knowing when to step down when clearly you are in the wrong. It just looked pathetic defending a clearly crap idea that everyone is against.

    This thread is good but very biased, i wouldnt go further as everyone has stated waht i needed to say in pages before.
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