~Poll~ Longer fights <Do you want it?>

[Skies]

Actually, Eekiki, you want to look at raptors. Between tail swipes and fire breath you gotta be plenty careful about positioning and WS triggering around them. Also careful of spawns/adds because seriously, one of them spawns too close and goes unattended for a moment and BAM everyone dies D:

And I do agree with you, levelling parties should in fact require a bit more of strategy, without actually slowing down the parties.

[Elexia]

This.

Should really vary between bosses, though. Not every boss should be heroic Lich King in length. Average boss fight being between 10-15 minutes in 24-man raids seems reasonable enough, I think.

Too bad Yoshida already agreed fights are too short and mobs die too quickly. He's in favor of increasing all battle lengths.

[Rokien]

Too bad Yoshida already agreed fights are too short and mobs die too quickly. He's in favor of increasing all battle lengths.

Did he? Oh, happy days!~ I must have missed that, thanks Elexia!

[Elexia]

Did he? Oh, happy days!~ I must have missed that, thanks Elexia!

Yep, it was all part of the battle reform plan regarding battle regimen reintroduction iirc.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

Vote YES here!

FFXIV fans are so disappointing. Wishy washy.

[Rokien]

FFXIV fans are so disappointing. Wishy washy.

How so!?! I'm one A class guy.

[Starlord]

How so!?! I'm one A class guy.

What a bunch of Jokers! ~Reyn ^^

[Duelle]

Too bad Yoshida already agreed fights are too short and mobs die too quickly. He's in favor of increasing all battle lengths.

Which can invite problems depending on the approach taken. If you try to focus on CC then I hope they give CC to every DPS job. If you're increasing mob HP and defenses then I hope they also tweak player debuffs and spread them through all the classes.

That's not to mention that making solo exp inconvenient (which would result from longer fights) is a step backwards. We'll see how this plays out.

[Elexia]

Which can invite problems depending on the approach taken. If you try to focus on CC then I hope they give CC to every DPS job. If you're increasing mob HP and defenses then I hope they also tweak player debuffs and spread them through all the classes.

That's not to mention that making solo exp inconvenient (which would result from longer fights) is a step backwards. We'll see how this plays out.

Point 1: That's exactly why it was being regarded as a change with the reintroduction of the Battle Regimen system. Player debuffs are mostly worthless because mobs die just so quick that it can't even take effect most of the time or flat out resist rates without alternatives, for example in FFXI you had numerous ways to debuff even resistant bosses that weren't elemental based resistance (i.e no paralyze on Shiva.)

Point 2: That's also why they're tweaking the guild leve system which monsters already have scalable and pre-adjusted HP/defense which are lower than "world spawn" mobs, if you ever get a mob caught in your AoE at low level, look at how quick a GL mob dies versus a regular mob, they have a lot lower HP in many regards.

Yoshida isn't inexperienced to MMOs so he knows the type of balance they'll need, it's mostly the community that's heavily split on certain subjects, he's not against doing a lot that he deems will be good for the game.

[Mudd]

This thread was pointless in the sense that we all know battles are supposed to get longer.