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    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    So if FFT'ss story is told from generation to generation in the world of FF14...

    FFT's end can be summed pretty much from this post in GameFaqs from a user named philsov:

    the ending?

    After Ramza and Co defeat Altima, they are either outright killed or deus ex machina'd back to the real world and never heard from again. They are officially thought dead, and while it would make MUCH more thematic sense to have them fittingly die, it's a final fantasy and heaven forbid this game is a full blown tragedy.

    Delita succeeds in unifying the land and becoming king.

    Olan writes about everything Ramza did, but the Church didn't like it so they killed Olan via live burning at the stake.

    Ovelia, being queen, eventually comes to the realization of how much of a manipulative and backstabbing ass Delita was, feels betrayed, and lashes out against him. Delita kills her in retaliation. (Delita survives the attack)

    Delita, having just killed the only person he truly cared about, is wrought with grief and wonders "Ramza, what did you get?" Ramza of course was not a manipulative and backstabbing ass, so it's an overarching question of "Do the ends really justify the means?"

    In short, history remembers Delita as the hero, Ramza died in obscurity, the Church is still corrupt as ever (though the infected Shrine Knights and Co are gone), and a small portion of the side characters sadly die. You did everything, saved the world from demonic resurrection and takeover, and get zero credit.

    The end.



    Does this mean in the world of FF14, people know the whole thing as bolded above or do they know they only know what the church allowed to be known (Delita good, Ramza bad)?

    Should be interesting which version of the war of the lions made it in the final cut, so to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    i hope none of it, i just want us to join up with them on a random mission and fight stuff.

    get some good ol ramza/delita jokes then fight some good ol remastered fft monsters and get awesome ff14 remastered fft music
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    get awesome ff14 remastered fft music
    Apoplexy, I need it.
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    Trisection for me.

    It seems to me that the whole story for the FFT raid is going to be done much like Crystal Tower not literally being FFIII's final dungeon but simply referencing it in theme and enemies, it's a grab bag of references from FFT/FFXII (and even FFIX) without being a literal retelling of FFT's storyline (after all, the first part of the raid is going to be a ruined version of Rabanastre from FFXII, a city which did not exist in FFT, so that pretty clearly shows it's not going to be literally 'FFT in Hydaelyn' (after all, SE themselves have long stated the real Ivalice and Hydaelyn are totally separate worlds).

    Either way, we'll find out soon enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Aw man... I'm playing through FFT for the first time right now (for the raid), thanks for ruining the ending...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    It seems to me that the whole story for the FFT raid is going to be done much like Crystal Tower not literally being FFIII's final dungeon but simply referencing it in theme and enemies, it's a grab bag of references from FFT/FFXII (and even FFIX) without being a literal retelling of FFT's storyline (after all, the first part of the raid is going to be a ruined version of Rabanastre from FFXII, a city which did not exist in FFT, so that pretty clearly shows it's not going to be literally 'FFT in Hydaelyn' (after all, SE themselves have long stated the real Ivalice and Hydaelyn are totally separate worlds).

    Either way, we'll find out soon enough.
    Based on the screenshots and art they've shown, it seems like it'll be the Minstrel's retelling of Rabanatre's fall. There's a screenshot of the city intact, albeit smoking, despite it apparently having been reduced to ruins when Dalmasca was "subjugated" by the Garleans.

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    I have a feeling we're gonna fight some FF tactics's or FF12's Summon.
    Or fight a Judge or some Holy Knights maybe ?
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    from the trailer, we're going to fight the ff12 summons hashmal (hashmallim - earth) and mateus (ice). the question is, if ba'gamnan is a boss as well or just the usual trashbag he already was before. the final boss is a mystery to me. ive never played fft, so im not familiar with his design, but interesting thing, he looks like helios the sungod, brother of eos and selene. there were so many screenshots of him in the live-letter but i dont think, they mentioned a name yet..
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    Yeah I think it's just going to be a mashup of FFT/XII elements. Rabanastre being destroyed by the Lucavi apparently, and we're helping Ramza/Delita stop them. Final FFT boss was Ultima the High Seraph, top lucavi

    Wonder if Cuculainn survived Void Ark, since he's one of them too. He might be a mini boss between bosses like we've seen in the other 24s

    I never really got the whole summoning these guys in FF12. Thought it was just fan service.

    Just like Return to Ivalice and Deltascape, etc. Not that literal.
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    Last edited by Xenosan; 10-01-2017 at 04:44 AM.

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    Not exactly. Ivalice form FFXIV is a version exclusive for FXIV, based on FFTactics. It has no relation with the original FFTactics. The same with Warring triad or Crystal Tower. They are they own thing in the FFXIV world, but based in other FF. It has been stated a lot of times that is not the same Ivalice as Tactis or FFXII.

    They are different worls. Ivalice form Tactis is not on Hydaelyn.
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