Question about House Hoarding/Lack of Houses

[Malachai]

I have seen wards with just a handful of players,alts, and fc own a LOT of houses in same ward. I understand you want a home for yourself/alts/fc, but there has to be a limit. I know one FC on my Lamia that owns 9 houses in one ward and that isn't even the players' multiple homes owned among themselves and their alts. More wards may not fix this because people who like to hoard homes would still continue. I looked on other servers via alts for homes and noticed there is always a group of people who own homes among themselves, alts, and fc because they sometimes put a note on home description or have alts with similar name that are in same FC.
Solution: Limit home owning tied to account per server. When more wards are added, it can meet the demand of the increase of players easier without the worry of players hoarding/flip prices.
Thoughts and opinions? I think this might be a cheap, simpler fix that would make a great first step in the housing issue.

[gbe931]

Tale as old as time and SE willfully ignores addressing it. Their actions show they care more about wasting dev time and money to make a rather useless and twice failed instanced F.A.T.E. zone in Diadem or an April Fools joke that no one asked for in Lord of Verminion. Because they have not addressed land hoarding, it has caused a black market of reselling for exorbitant prices that they themselves allow to exist due to inaction. They could do actually useful things like make more wards so that the majority of the player base can actually utilize this feature, but that would require common sense and actually giving a care for the majority of the player base that fund the game. Instead we get only 720 net-new housing plots for an entire 2Y+ expansion cycle and servers that WILL crash or people get 90K'd the instant the 4.1 becomes live. The vast majority will have to wait for the next expansion to get a remote chance of obtaining a housing plot.

SE's priority: New Cash Shop items

[Big_Panda]

I mean this without sarcasm or disdain:

You are almost the 1000th players to suggest this idea. The other 999 people made the same observation/suggestion and all 999 threads have been ignored by SE.

This is a band-aid solution that would barely alleviate the issue and SE is not eager to stir the hornet's nest by forcing a small group of hoarders to give up their houses and (more importantly) admitting the housing system requires complete overhaul.

Do they get to pick which house they can keep? Do they get their gil back? What about furniture items that are destroyed on removal? These relinquished houses will be gone in 10 seconds and you get the same angry complaints right after.

[Malachai]

Big_Panda
Appreciate the reply without sarcastic disdain. Hard to find a reply without such for people like me who are new to the forums and don't have the time to scroll through or even use the vague search for answers among the thousands of posts/threads, thus lack the awareness of such. Agreed and it is frustrating that something that requires an overhaul is only patched with ridiculous updates. Rather than taking time and money to address the issue with simple brainless fixes, they would rather have it snowball into the mess it is and not stir up hornet nest when they can just ignore it like they do with the fans and positive playerbase that would rather continue supporting them.

gbe931
Hilarious, sad, and accurate. It seems devs for all games and platforms would rather invest time and money in things that they think would help make quick profit than address main issues that encourage sales of actual games or platforms or even pay attention to the fans and consumers. As my family always says, common sense is not so common.

[DrWho2010]

i mean if an fc has a house and their members want to have personal houses near/in the same ward as the main FC house.... I don't really see the issue? They want to be together why can't they?

[Malachai]

i mean if an fc has a house and their members want to have personal houses near/in the same ward as the main FC house.... I don't really see the issue? They want to be together why can't they?

The issue is them having multiple homes among themselves, such as more than one house among each the FC members and their alts. So lets say a handful of members in an FC each have more than one home between main characters and their alts. Players bypass the limit of owning homes by having more homes between main characters and alts. So a group of five players in one fc have two or three homes each,w hich quickly eat up the supply of available homes. It is a lot more common than it should be. And that is just the players that are more obvious about it

[DrWho2010]

well i kinda agree personal housing should be per account not per character. alts should not own houses.

[LittleSparrow]

Git speedy and git gud and making money

You really shouldn't punish pure hard work and dedication.

[Solarra]

You really shouldn't punish pure hard work and dedication.

I might agree with you if housing wasn't so limited. It doesn't really take 'hard work' though, my alt could afford a small house at level 50, so the gil isn't an issue. The only thing you really need is luck in finding a vacant plot.

If the devs are going to stick with the ward system (which I really feel is a huge mistake), then it makes sense to allow alts to share houses and to limit them to one house per account or at least, one house per server.
It certainly won't cure the shortage, but at least it would move things in the direction of being fairer.

[Raqrie_Tohka]

I think if SE were to fix the housing problem, it'll be a massive overhaul akin to redesigning the whole layout of wards. Then everyone can get everything they ever wanted. Personal housing surrounding FC housing in mini "neighborhoods". Grand boulevards.
Semi-instanced selective and partial loading of wards, instead of the current full-loading non-instanced wards putting too much strain on the hardware (with trees or rivers or terrain or whatever to act as soft buffers).
Sprawling, branching design, or a triangular "adaptive" ward which grows as more houses are built. Basically, smart and mathematically brilliant programming solutions.
You can get your pools, full landscaping, fishing stands, visible airship landings, composite-structure houses, advanced architecture styles, large-scale FC castles with personal rooms. Basically everything you can dream of, in a housing feature.

But, they'll have to dedicated a task force to specifically work on this feature. So we can only hope that somehow, in all the internal reports and analysis SE does, they realize that making the most brilliant housing simulator ever existed would somehow benefit them. Then make absolutely no mistake they will get it done. But only if.