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    akaneakki's Avatar
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    Liza Sol
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    Culinarian Lv 70

    Please square enix

    Can you lock out the lvl 70 trial/dungeons by making people actually do their job quest at 70? I know the skills for some classes are optimal to use, like WHM one where there is no really heavy healing needed, but for example DRG get's nastrond and it does a huge chunk of damage for them in dungeons and end game. There are plenty of people who never did their job quest. It's getting really bad, how many players I meet in lvl 70 dungeons expert roulettes with their lvl 68 weapons and I ask if they even did the quest and they say no.
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    While they are adding this feature, they should have leveling dungeons (atleast HW and SB content) also be locked behind ilevel. I was tanking two groups yesterday, in the first Stormblood dungeon and the Vault. In the first Stormblood dungeon both DPS were wearing level 56 gear. The dungeon run took forever and it wasnt untill I inspected them that I noticed their gear. In the Vault the healer had issues healing, even with facing only a boss. I checked her gear at the end of the dungeon run and saw that she has level 20 accessories, level 50 gear and a level 47 weapon. I understand being undegeared for 5 levels, but having 20 levels lower gear or 40 levels lower items is insane. There needs to be a gate.
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    Tonberry
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    While they are adding this feature, they should have leveling dungeons (atleast HW and SB content) also be locked behind ilevel. I was tanking two groups yesterday, in the first Stormblood dungeon and the Vault. In the first Stormblood dungeon both DPS were wearing level 56 gear. The dungeon run took forever and it wasnt untill I inspected them that I noticed their gear. In the Vault the healer had issues healing, even with facing only a boss. I checked her gear at the end of the dungeon run and saw that she has level 20 accessories, level 50 gear and a level 47 weapon. I understand being undegeared for 5 levels, but having 20 levels lower gear or 40 levels lower items is insane. There needs to be a gate.
    The next dungeon and onwards has an iLvL requirement.
    But since the Vault does have a heal check at the end esp. if you have DDs that are lax, I agree it should also have an iLvL requirement.
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    ... having 20 levels lower gear or 40 levels lower items is insane. There needs to be a gate.
    It will be not harmful all duties have the min il requirement. You even can use that to let players know about hall of novice before going into Sastasha.

    There also is a MSQ quest that will teach you the importance of gearing properly but I guess people just skip text and go on.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    There also is a MSQ quest that will teach you the importance of gearing properly but I guess people just skip text and go on.
    That or they might be leveling a second (third, ... ) class and just cant be bothered to get new gear - neither of those is a good reason not to gear up properly and waste other peoples time.
    So I'm all for certain ilvl restrictions - they dont have to be crazy high, but them 15-20 ilvls below the stuff that drops in the dungeon and that should be fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    There needs to be a gate.
    I agree, I met someone in lvl 53 dungeon with ilvl90 gear on both right and left side and this was a player who already had 2 lvl 70 classes as well. I asked if he could buy them and he said he didn't have time? lol, takes legit less than 5 min to go to a vendor or MB to buy better gear. I don't mind small pulls, but the tank needed to pull like a snail and had issue with the healer healing very low.
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    Joe Ultima
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    Coeurl
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    Rogue Lv 70
    Title not specific enough. I do agree though that expansion dungeons all need a minimum IL requirement. This would at least force people to get Ironworks and Shire gear before attempting the expansion instances which in turn will make them run/farm previous endgame dungeons/raids and hunts.
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    Edge Vice
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 83
    No doubt they were in POTD and couldn't be bothered to spend a single gil on upgrading to NQ level-appropriate gear. It's infuriating but SE doesn't really care as long as we love and respect one another's play styles.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Clicked View Post
    No doubt they were in POTD and couldn't be bothered to spend a single gil on upgrading to NQ level-appropriate gear. It's infuriating but SE doesn't really care as long as we love and respect one another's play styles.
    Not necessarily. I once had a Scholar pre-PotD who was wearing both the Friendship Circuit and Brand New Ring in Ravana normal. Every other piece was below Ironworks while his weapon was 43-47 or thereabouts. He not only had the audacity to complain about DPS (OT disconnected, so were pulled without one), but when I noticed and called out his gear, he said "I have a level 60 PLD and know it's fine!"

    Some people just feel entitled to clears even if they try to make you do all the work.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Not necessarily. I once had a Scholar pre-PotD who was wearing both the Friendship Circuit and Brand New Ring in Ravana normal. Every other piece was below Ironworks while his weapon was 43-47 or thereabouts. He not only had the audacity to complain about DPS (OT disconnected, so were pulled without one), but when I noticed and called out his gear, he said "I have a level 60 PLD and know it's fine!"

    Some people just feel entitled to clears even if they try to make you do all the work.
    I would not have been kind (it almost looks like they're begging to be criticised)... and/or probably would have kicked them.
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