4.1 and us Lalas

**Welsper59** · 09-29-2017 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by Niraves

Not even hateful? LOL.. Some people are downright NASTY with how they treat me because I play a Lala. I've had so-called friends that stopped talking to me because I fantasia'd into a Lala. It's one thing if you know the person and know they are okay with being poked fun at, its entirely another issue to go into a dungeon and be a complete jerk to a random stranger.

Am I maybe a little overly sensitive about it? Yea, maybe. But I'm honestly tired of being poked at by people just because I play the race that I like. I have enough selfconfidence issues without some jerkwad on the internet insulting me constantly every time I go into DF.

That situation you posed is a different matter and one I'd argue isn't normal. That's one where they took the matter too seriously... like they need psychiatric therapy levels of seriously. Those are, IMO, not the sort of people you really want to associate with, even in a game. Creepy ass folks to deal with on the daily. To be honest, some of the hateful responses really aren't to be taken seriously, at least from what I've personally seen on the game and on these forums. Yeah, some people take their jokes a little too far (as in to uncomfortable lengths of time), but it's generally pretty obvious they're playing into the thought. Your situation of people stopping their talks with you because of the fact you changed to a Lala is stupid and shouldn't be worth your time to feel concern over. Crazy ass people there.

It's one thing to be irritated about the constant jokes, similar to being irritated about a newsfeed being all about an overplayed topic of nothing, but it's another to take fiction seriously in a negative way. Unless someone starts to make it personal (i.e. it being about you and not something related to the fictional character), it's generally not intended to be taken seriously. When the jokes start being hurtful about the player and not the character, that's when you know there's something wrong with them.

**Ametrine** · 09-29-2017 07:47 AM

I was sexually harassed by on old FC for changing from Miqo'te to Lalafell. I got the hell out of dodge (I left the game for months and jumped off the Datacenter it was so disturbing), and couldn't play Lalafell for more than few days without that betrayal of friendship looming back. The intense sensitivity I feel is very much a defense response to the hate.

I don't think beimg upset over broken friendships and random acts of harassment is "petty," myself, but I do understand your side in that it looks like that when most Lala players respond with (actually harmless) perfection jokes.

The whole bust slider being completely pointless in it's current form bothers me, too. I'm just on the fence with whether it should be changed to make the difference between 1 and 100 be greater than a few pixels, thus giving Lalafell females noticable breasts, or if they stick to their concept as designers and delete it to free up server strain.

Sliders are supposed to be far harder on server strain than any of the option toggles used otherwise, so cutting the one slider could result in things like, Highlander men having a proper eyebrow option or Auri horns being unlinked from faces.

Even though Lalafell girls would look nearly exactly the same, it's hard to explain to a fanbase that one race as one less customization option to give another more.

**Rlloona** · 09-29-2017 08:01 AM

I mean I always joke about Lalafells around friends and if others players play along with it, but I didn't know people took it to an extreme level.

Originally Posted by Ametrine

I was sexually harassed by on old FC for changing from Miqo'te to Lalafell. I got the hell out of dodge (I left the game for months and jumped off the Datacenter it was so disturbing), and couldn't play Lalafell for more than few days without that betrayal of friendship looming back. The intense sensitivity I feel is very much a defense response to the hate.

That's messed up

And they were supposed to be your friend? I'm sorry that happened to you...

**Welsper59** · 09-29-2017 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Ametrine

I don't think beimg upset over broken friendships and random acts of harassment is "petty," myself, but I do understand your side in that it looks like that when most Lala players respond with (actually harmless) perfection jokes.

Assuming you're referring to my mention of "petty", it wasn't aimed at outliers such as harassment, when it comes to choosing one race over another. Though it's obvious that it's a ridiculous situation to have to be in or deal with, as per yours and that other players case. I'd associate that entirely on the other parties stupidity or sociopath tendencies than any fault of the victims.

Originally Posted by Welsper59

That being called a potato, dinner, or referencing an object to be punted is going to seriously deter someone from picking the race more than any other petty reason?

Petty used there is in reference to reasons such as the potato comment being a deterrent for choosing one race over another. My word use with "petty" might be a little overly harsh to use in that context, but it is what it is. If I don't want to be a very short character that is easily regarded as cutesy, I'd call that a petty reason to not want to play one. Preferences are understandable, but just outright refusal for such things (like because said person is afraid to be called a potato) is where I'm deriving my use of it from. If someone wants to be a Lala, do it. The rest of us are just being stupid if jokes are made... I would hope that to be a relatively universal understanding that we're the idiots in those situations for playing the part of ignorant (playful) hate.

**dejiko_san** · 09-29-2017 10:42 AM

I've already gone into a DF dungeon on my whm and gotten "urrgg Lala" and the tank left. After a while, you start to twitch when the lala jokes start, even if the other person is only joking.

The constant /pets can also be disturbing when someone follows you around and just does /pet over and over.

**Fredco191** · 09-29-2017 11:15 AM

What’s a forum without arguements?
Miiverse https://youtu.be/sGFYd3In8oI

**Ametrine** · 09-29-2017 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Aarik

holy fucking shit.

Wow. There's victim blaiming, then there is writing a dissertation to pick apart every word of my displeasure of the habit of the forum community's tendency to derail all goofy lalafell themed threads at our expense.

Just for you.

I did not use the whole "master race" verbage, nor even used "racism" at any point in this thread, because incessant the bullying we're complaining about being compared to systematic racism that ruins actual lives is a gross injustice in and of itself. I have learned this, especially with current events.

Also, I am, under no circumstance, required to tell you the unfortunate story behind my old FC, the gaslighting, the discomfort,
the same "its just a joke," but it's absolutely absurd to tell me that my choice to turn off the game when I was put into a nasty situation FOR MY OWN SANITY AND WELL BEING, was wrong.

**Sylvina** · 09-29-2017 11:33 AM

I know I'm sick of being called "Boring" becuase I'm a Hyur. Nothing even remotely boring about Humans, or Hyur. Spiral power baby.

**Aarik** · 09-29-2017 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Ametrine

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You don't actually see the irony of that pic, do you? Everyone in this thread was goofing around and having a good time, making jokes about character races (including their own) in good humor. Then you stomp in and start trying to impose your misguided paranoia upon anyone and everyone who says anything about a lalafell in jest if they're not a lalafell themselves. So...according to you, the only ones welcome in this thread are 'fellow lalafells' (and isn't that an absurdity, considering fantasia pots nullify that swiftly), and others who come in with 'tired and used' memes are unwelcome....completely overlooking the fact that the 'lalafell master race' jokes are JUST as overused. The hypocrisy is real. It also smacks of racism....if this wasn't a game. But it is. And I'll be honest; if people typing words on a screen actually bother you so much that you needed to leave so you wouldn't go insane....buddy you need help. You also needed to report them so their disgusting behavior would have been stopped right there.....but that's just my opinion.

**SilverObi** · 09-29-2017 12:12 PM

ITT: angry potatoes!

Just kidding, you lil fellers are alright in my book. Except for the evil ones (you know who you are!)

Also as far as teasing goes, I'd say it's pretty balanced among the races except for roes since they're so rare in general.

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