New Players Teleporting from Shirogane Housing

[TWOxACROSS]

With Shirogane housing in the horizon, a concern was brought up. Obviously, anyone who joins a free company will have access to the FC house, being able to teleport to it. However, if they haven't unlocked passage to a housing district, they cannot walk freely out of it, and instead need to teleport away. That's not much of a problem for the districts in Eorzea, because it's easy enough to unlock passage via the housing quests, and even simply teleporting out isn't all that expensive.

However, what about Shirogane? If a free company has a house in Shirogane, we've been told that any new player, even those who don't have access to Stormblood content, can still come to the Shirogane district and make use of the amenities there. Yet, what of the aforementioned problem of not having passage unlocked? The only recourse for someone to leave is to either Return (not quite so ideal) or to simply teleport away - but there's a problem in that teleporting back to available content (read: Eorzea) will cost 999 gil, and for any new player, it seems somewhat unfair to make someone spend that amount of money just to make use of their FC house, and that's not even counting how much even the heavily discounted price to teleport TO the house will cost. It's essentially punishing new players who are welcomed to companies with a house in Shirogane, eating away at the little money they're collecting.

Is there any way to address this concern...?

[NovaUltimatum]

Return has a 15 minute cooldown, allowing them to exchange things between Eorzea and Shirogane every 15 minutes. That's not so bad, is it? If they required more frequent visits the FC could probably given them some gil and activate 'Reduced Rates' actions.

They could also setup a free teleport location by activating the security token to their account as well. That way they can have a 0 gil cost way back.

[NinjaTaru72]

Return has a 15 minute cooldown, allowing them to exchange things between Eorzea and Shirogane every 15 minutes. That's not so bad, is it? If they required more frequent visits the FC could probably given them some gil and activate 'Reduced Rates' actions.

They could also setup a free teleport location by activating the security token to their account as well. That way they can have a 0 gil cost way back.

Don't forget the numerous ways to get free telly tickets.

[Welsper59]

Truth be told, it's a non-concern issue. The problem is trivial at best. A new player would not have gotten to Shirogane housing without an FC, and as such, have a collective of people to bum some gil off of if absolutely needed (it isn't). Waiting for Return to be off cooldown, assuming it is, won't destroy the ability for someone to play the game.

[Airget]

Truth be told, it's a non-concern issue. The problem is trivial at best. A new player would not have gotten to Shirogane housing without an FC, and as such, have a collective of people to bum some gil off of if absolutely needed (it isn't). Waiting for Return to be off cooldown, assuming it is, won't destroy the ability for someone to play the game.

If anything what they might do is if a player who doesn't have access to Kugane tries to leave they will be booted to the Limsa Lominsa Deck instead of Kugane.

[Sicno]

If anything what they might do is if a player who doesn't have access to Kugane tries to leave they will be booted to the Limsa Lominsa Deck instead of Kugane.

That sounds like a good idea at first but remember that if you start in Gridania or Ul'dah you can't reach Limsa until a lvl 15 quest, so that would create new problems.

Edit: and with this I just remembered that the same scenario currently happens if you start in Gridania or Ul'dah and then join a FC with a house in Mist or vice-versa. Which comes to illustrate that this is no problem at all.

[TWOxACROSS]

Return is on a timer, and can only take you to one specific place; Reduced Rates actions prevents the use of more desirable actions; I'm not exactly familiar the numerous ways to get free teleport tickets; and the free teleport location is, like the Return, only accounts for one location. The concern is a legitimate one, after all, and not having an in-system way to prevent a new players' wallet from getting gutted when they want to make use of a house they were invited to is a little balking.

[Emstidor]

Return is on a timer, and can only take you to one specific place; Reduced Rates actions prevents the use of more desirable actions; I'm not exactly familiar the numerous ways to get free teleport tickets; and the free teleport location is, like the Return, only accounts for one location. The concern is a legitimate one, after all, and not having an in-system way to prevent a new players' wallet from getting gutted when they want to make use of a house they were invited to is a little balking.

Reduced Rates is literally the most desirable FC action, as it’s the only (?) one that uniformly benefits all players, since everyone has to teleport around.

[Niwashi]

Reduced Rates is literally the most desirable FC action, as it’s the only (?) one that uniformly benefits all players, since everyone has to teleport around.

You think everyone teleports around? With the exception of my free teleport location and Return, I almost never do.

It's a habit picked up early on as a low-level player, back when gil was barely trickling in and I could hardly ever afford to teleport anywhere. (Even airship tickets were priced out of range for a while.) I got used to traveling overland wherever I needed to go, or would use cheap 40 gil ferries, and (once I got it) my free teleport location, as well as Return. Even now, when I have millions of gil on hand, I'll generally avoid any teleport that costs more than 100, since by the time I reached that point I was used to the notion that that's overpriced, and I can get around just as well without it.

Back when my hunt linkshells were more active, I did sometimes teleport to get to a hunt mark. And there have been a time or two I've teleported to where someone needed help (someone shouting for a Raise, or an FC member asking for help with a FATE they needed but couldn't solo). But those exceptions are fairly rare. Traveling just doesn't have the sort of time urgency to make teleport useful very often.