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    An idea to combat RMT...

    Just a thought, and it only crossed my mind as back when I had a PC I played WOW for a little bit, but what if SE made it available to buy Gil through the moogle station? I know Blizzrd implemented a feature where you could buy a token and then sell it on the market for in game gold. Not sure if it stopped the RMT spam or not but SE’s idea of combating RMT isn’t working!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelani View Post
    Just a thought, and it only crossed my mind as back when I had a PC I played WOW for a little bit, but what if SE made it available to buy Gil through the moogle station? I know Blizzrd implemented a feature where you could buy a token and then sell it on the market for in game gold. Not sure if it stopped the RMT spam or not but SE’s idea of combating RMT isn’t working!
    That is ... RMT.

    Real Money Trade, use your Real Money to buy Ingame Items.
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    Depends on what you think is a problem with RMT.

    If you are against RMT because you think real money should not be exchangeable for in-game money, then selling gil on the Mog Station makes the situation worse.

    If you are against RMT because of account theft, spam and bots, then Mog Station needs to sell gil at a lower price than RMT vendors, which creates inflation, and you would need gil sinks to counter-act that inflation, only to create more incentive for players to buy gil, i.e. more inflation.

    It seems like you're the latter; how would you respond to the inflation that comes with official sanction on buying gil for real money?
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    The problem I have with that is the game's econ. The game's econ is centered around housing, minions, and glams, not combat gear. With the housing shortage, and no the new area is not enough, I feel it would cause more problems with the game's econ then it helps with fighting RMT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    Depends on what you think is a problem with RMT.
    It seems like you're the latter; how would you respond to the inflation that comes with official sanction on buying gil for real money?
    That would be a non-issue if there was no extreme housing shortage.
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    How about no? It's RMT no matter how you spin it, just a matter of SE controlling the market instead of these shady sellers. I don't like the idea either way. SE's already money hungry enough. And their approach has actually been working quite nicely since the right click > report RMT function was implemented. I'm wondering if you were even around when they were sending out tells to the whole server, usually at least 3-4 per minute in my chat log alone. That has stopped entirely. Only place I've seen them is around market boards, and they can be reported too.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 09-26-2017 at 01:22 PM.
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    No thanks, the last thing we need is for this game to go pay to win and selling gil would be the first step down that slippery slope. Not to mention destroying the economy.

    Also RMT pay subs too. SE managed to pretty much get rid of them on FFXI with filters built into the chat, so I see no reason they can't do the same here. Obviously they have no desire to.

    What really amazes me is anyone needing to buy gil when it's so ridiculously easy to make.
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    Last edited by Zarabeth; 09-26-2017 at 01:28 PM. Reason: stuff and things

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    Well it was just an idea based on what I saw in WOW. I agree that SE like money, what company doesn’t? It’s not the thought of buying Gil I’m opposed to but the idea of people selling it illegally - if it was made legal to purchase Gil through SE directly surely that would combat some of the spam you see. I can’t rightly say that RMT traders pay for a sub, not with the way the trial accounts work now - it’s more than likely that the reason the tells have stopped is because they are using trial accounts and just spamming the say, shout and novice network. Obviously, I wouldn’t purchase Gil illegally anyway, I’m not desperate for it or anything like that, it was just something I was thinking about after reporting about 5 people on the row earlier tonight, and wondered what others thought on it
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    No game I've ever played that has an official way to purchase in-game currency for cash has seen a reduction or elimination of 3rd party rmt spamming. In-game inflation does tend to go up though.
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    this has been tossed around on this board before, here's the latest for you to read : http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...no-Plex-system
    I'm pretty sure this will end up with the same arguments being thrown back and forth.
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    Easier way would be to have trial accounts unable to chat whatsoever and folks reported RMT to be teleported to a ingame jail.
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