Thread: 4.1 and us dps

I've been playing SMN again recently. It's not as bad as I remembered it to be but I still see the problems.

I'm still hoping that SMN becomes like the PvP version.
Ruin III being your main spell instead of Ruin (but not an instant cast) and upgrades to Ruin IV in Dreadwyrm Trance.
The biggest change I'd want would be Summon Bahamut costing 1 Dreadwyrm Aether instead of 2 while Akh Morn is only useable once for each duration. Potencies can be adjusted so it could work.

So far I heard Sustain is coming back which is okay I guess.

Originally Posted by KirigiriKyouko

Because they're ranged.

That's something I think was poorly implemented since HW. BLM is in my opinion the only range dps who has the justification to be above the melees except SAM single target dps wise since BLMs greatly suffer from mechanics if they have to move...but look where DRG/NIN are in the list... Nearly any range outdps them when it comes to personal single target dps.
You can mantain a high uptime as melee but you are often dependend of how your other partymember react (tanks etc) and have to put extra effort in doing it while ranges don't have to care about that. There are even some mechanics that don't really affect ranges usually circle AOEs around the boss for example o3s the Icecast / o4s thunder.
MCH+BRD can do everything while moving yet MCH get's another buff while most people were asking for gameplay changes after the 4.06 buffs, same thing with SMN.
They are already really strong number wise even without counting their Utility. RDM is also super mobile thanks to dualcast. SMNs egi still attacks (aslong not bahamut) + their dots and instant so they also don't suffer much except during Bahamut while moving.
Ranges also don't have to care about positionals therefore they aren't really as dependant on other player to do their thing.

In case of SMN they become god themselves when it comes to multitarget fights so why is a Job very strong in Single target and god in Aoe/cleave while beeing a somewhat mobile range and has great utility?
Where are the trade offs for that power?
Tbh I believe the only reason why we don't see/have seen much of job stacking is the LB rule they brought as "fix" back in HW.
I somewhat liked it when ranges had the support/aoe/less afford role while melees brought the high single target dps.
Many dps jobs do still have design issues while their numbers are fine/good.

Another issue is raidbuff stacking, the interaction between them is too strong.... instead of reducing/changing them, they started handing them like candy to more jobs, making the situation worse.
Raid utility shouldn't be dmg in my opinion, everything in the game is only focused around that.
Healers don't focus to heal/protect the grp, they now care more about dps.... tanks don't focus on taking as less dmg as possible while holding hate, they care more about dps...
The issue here I think is that we don't really have a "Tank" gameplay, they practically are melee dds with high defensives/CDs without positionals and healers aren't challenged enough in regular content where they have to keep healing.

I also think that tank dmg is way to high single target wise in this game... I mean in which other mmo do tanks do 80% of the DPS dmg in single target situations?

1.b clone jutsu either does what I said in 1.a or it is a stationary jutsu-don't move- and the clones appear around you to copy your mudra and execute ninjutsu causing an aoe version of your ninjutsu .(obviously can not be used with tenchijin.)
Ability works with the following ninjutsu.
- raiton: It'll look like those Aoe raitons from the Job quest
-suiton: New aoe animation for the jutsu.
- doton: slightly larger and placeable like SMN lvl 50 skill
-katon: more intense fire explosion. + burning debuff.
-Hyoton: binds all enemies in a large circle of ice. + frost debuff
-Huton: doubles the huton length from 70 to 140 seconds
- fuma: All clones throw the fuma shuriken for double potency aoe line

2. The 4th mudra. Now, this mudra does not add any new ninjutsu. It uses the ninki gauge and is on a 50 second cooldown. The 4th mudra does what 1.b describes, minus the clones. So your ninki fills, you use the mudra for your jutsu, say, raiton. So ten-> chi -> 4th mudra = aoe raiton.