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    So Square continues to ignore DRK and it's multitude of problems.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by NellMoshroca View Post
    So Square continues to ignore DRK and it's multitude of problems.....
    worse, if that shake it off barrier its a thing we are complety doom, DRK need more love that WAR idk why they hide all the info about us.
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    Karuru Karu
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    did i hear right that WAR gets an aoe shield?

    and that DRK gets nothing?

    ...i am not really thaat surprised to be honest...

    so PLD and WAR have both better mitigation, damage, selfheal and utility now than DRK..?
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    Last edited by Tint; 09-29-2017 at 11:12 PM.

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    Players on the Japanese WAR mega-thread have posted clarifications for the Shake It Off changes, not sure where they got it since I didn't see the Live Letter, maybe the full description was in there.

    Here is what they say:
    - Shake It Off will provide an AoE shield that can protect party members in range and is based on a percentage of the WAR's max HP.
    - Recast 60s.
    - Base percent is 4% plus any of the designated CDs buffs will be consumed if active and provide an extra 4% for a potential total of 20%.

    Keep in mind, that's second hand info and not from a dev, so it may be wrong.

    They also seem confused about the Fell Cleave change stuff much like here on the English forums.

    As for the lack of DRK changes announced, there haven't been as many complaints about it as on here but there were a few that pretty much amounted to "Sigh ... no DRK changes".
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 09-30-2017 at 02:23 PM.

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    a 20% shield from war hp? DRK time to use living dead bcs we dont survive this
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    a 20% shield from war hp? DRK time to use living dead bcs we dont survive this
    I laughed but it hurt a lot. I really hope we at least get something out of this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post

    Here is what they say:
    - Shake It Off will provide an AoE shield that can protect party members in range and is based on a percentage of the WAR\\'s max HP.
    - Recast 60s.
    - Base percent is 4% plus any of the designated CDs buffs will be consumed if active and provide an extra 4% for a potential total of 20%.

    Keep in mind, that\\'s second hand info and not from a dev, so it may be wrong.

    They also seem confused about the Fell Cleave change stuff much like here on the English forums.

    A Warrior hp based shield with half the cd of divine veil AND the potency to be double as good as DV/more uptime?

    WHAT THE FUCK SQUARE ENIX

    Srsly Warrior should not have utility outside of damage. My Shake it off replacement would have been a combo action to Holmgang to make you move during it upon activation or an attack that does more dmg the less hp you have to also combo with holmgang

    But this is idiotic
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunAurel View Post
    A Warrior hp based shield with half the cd of divine veil AND the potency to be double as good as DV/more uptime?

    WHAT THE FUCK SQUARE ENIX

    Srsly Warrior should not have utility outside of damage. My Shake it off replacement would have been a combo action to Holmgang to make you move during it upon activation or an attack that does more dmg the less hp you have to also combo with holmgang

    But this is idiotic
    Get out. Now.


    Quote Originally Posted by SunAurel View Post
    Which is still significantly better than a 10% pala based hp shield with heal trigger every 2 minutes -,-
    Which PLD gets alongside party wide damage reduction skill at level 70, intervention, clemency, and Cover with basically the same damage and a rotation that's braid dead easy to learn and do at any point in a fight.

    Meanwhile WAR gets...similar damage as PLD and...a shield every 60 seconds.

    The only reason you don't want WAR to be good is because it'd make PLD worse by comparison. That's soooo petty.

    And I'm not even getting into poor DRK.
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    Last edited by Tegernako; 10-01-2017 at 12:29 PM.

    Halo kid

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    That's actually not particularly OP. I mean it's good enough but when you realize how it would be in practice it's just okay. I mean I like it but it's most definitely not OP. It actually makes WAR more of an OT role, which it's been a MT role for a long time due to how easy it gets aggro and can swap into dps stance.

    But MT or OT, in savage you CANT just blow you CDs all at once. Every one requires both tanks to have CDs for mechanics. So a 4% aoe shield every min is actually just right, I'd say. At most you'd get 2 20% shake it offs in maybe o2s, that's it. And in casual content a 20% shield doesn't really matter anyway and will help not so great healers so it's not bad if it's true.

    I assume Thrill, RI, Vengeance and maybe rampart would be consumed. Seeing as two of those skills have 2 min cds, it doesn't actually have the full 20% every minute. It would be 12% every 90 seconds or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post

    So a 4% aoe shield every min is actually just right, I\\'d say. At most you\\'d get 2 20% shake it offs in maybe o2s, that\\'s it. And in casual content a 20% shield doesn\\'t really matter anyway and will help not so great healers so it\\'s not bad if it\\'s true.

    I assume Thrill, RI, Vengeance and maybe rampart would be consumed. Seeing as two of those skills have 2 min cds, it doesn\\'t actually have the full 20% every minute. It would be 12% every 90 seconds or so.
    Which is still significantly better than a 10% pala based hp shield with heal trigger every 2 minutes -,-
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