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  1. #51
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    kikix12's Avatar
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    Seraphitia Faro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    I think it's only punishable if it is directed at people who request you(whoever is ERPing) NOT to include them and then they report said ERPer, but it is definitely something that would be best addressed by the GMs.
    There is nothing directly forbidding it in game (there IS something directly forbidding it on the forums though), but there are rules that are so general that any kind of such role play may get you punished if reported, whether or not a typical person would consider it "fine". Basically, if it's not something you would be allowed to say in front of a kid that's 8-10 years old without odd looks from people around, it's something you can be punished for, going by the rules set out by Square Enix.

    Clearly, vast majority of players cross that line on a regular basis, so really, unless you're pushy and excessive, chances are you would come out of it without a scratch. But hey, they need to cover themselves.
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  2. #52
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    Crysten Kimura
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    So putting the actual idea aside for one minute, what exactly would the gameplay benefits of having a child be?

    There's gotta be a reason for it and a tangible gameplay mechanic behind it, otherwise what's the point? You get more of an immersive experience from housing shop NPCs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

  3. #53
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    Areku Foxfire
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    How would this even work? Just some random NPC that sits in your house? Unless they actually do something it'd be rather pointless and I wouldn't feel any connection to just some npc who's in my house like that.

    I don't really see any way this would work or how they could implement such a system, honestly something like this is better suited to games like The Sims and not an MMO, no offense.
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  4. #54
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    Aylis Tessier
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    Balmung
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    While it is a good and interesting idea yes, given this is SE were talking about and past experiences tell me they couldn't do this without it being a major burden on game play. I think that's why a lot are saying "this is not the Sims" due to the fact this is SE and is no doubt in my mind they would make it so raising and caring for a child in game would be a game all in itself due to heavy focus on lore and realism.
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  5. #55
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    No thank you I don't need any more children real or imagined. I raised two in real life and am happy that they are out in the world on their own.
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  6. #56
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    I can't believe this thread is still going, but you know what, okay, I really enjoy franchise that have life sim aspects, particular those of the Farming variety.

    In those games, having a child is just part of the chain of events you go through via the relationship systems. One of the goals is to woo your choice of bachelor or bachelorette, marry them, then start a family. The different ways events play out, the work put into garnering affection, etc, is arguably half the gameplay.

    The reason why it never crosses the line into creepy territory is in large part due to the fact that these are single player games meant to fulfill a completely different kind of escapist fantasy. It's about making the work of making friends, lovers, family an absolute breeze. Even the rancher side is made wildly simple.

    While there is some overlap with the crafting/gathering systems being way to make money, FFXIV serves a different audience of players.

    Tomadachi Life and the Sims do it differently in that part of the entertainment comes from wild scenarios you get from putting versions of anyone into an house and watching the magic unfold. It can inevitably lead to romance, and you have different levels of influence upon how things unfold. FFXIV can't do that with real people.

    Basically, the idea of expanding the marriage system beyond the cool items and convenient teleport to forcing you to deal with the responsibility of family jumps off the rails of what kind of game FFXIV is trying to be.

    Even this fancy "adopt a player" system smacks of a sort of mentorship program, and not the RP being asked for.
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    Last edited by Ametrine; 09-27-2017 at 07:44 AM.

  7. #57
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    Inigo Meowtoya
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    The thought of Lala's mating and producing offspring will attract a wild Chris Hansen if you're not careful there... :P
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  8. #58
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    So what's stopping me from forcing my child to only wear a Pig Suit while feeding it nothing but Sachertorte and Triple Cream Coffee?

    Asking for a friend. /s
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    I was the Almighty Enkidu for April Fools 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

  9. #59
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    Jock Harley
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notomi View Post
    having a family is an important part in a marriage.
    I think children have nothing to do with marriage, kids have everything to do with making sure genes are passed on. Marriage doesn't have children as an important part of it(though I am sure some marriages seem to look this way), Marriage is about many things, but kids are not one of them, it's more so a pledge to someone, religion made this more appropriated for making kids a part of it, I will state though you are entitled to your opinion/faith/belief.

    Also unless I'm going to get Nipples, a booty and a crotch related to the Sex of my character, I truely do see how we will ever have kids, not would I want them thinking daddy ain't gonna come home for a copious amount of time nor is Father from his own escapades, same goes for waifus and wives, etc
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    Last edited by JockHarley; 09-27-2017 at 10:22 AM.

  10. #60
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    Cynehild Westknight
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 96
    I think there would need to be two different systems for this kind of thing to work in this game.
    1. A family bonding similar to a wedding for the purposes of adopting other players into your family. This would let the players RP whatever they want...like they already do really.
    2. An extension of Khloe's system where we can adopt children and be a mentor or big brother/sister kind of person to them. Maybe they can set up shop as an interactable NPC similar to house vendors. (They sell something but have a stock appearance you can't change) as opposed to retainers who have a customizable appearance.

    Also, not really a system but it would be nice to have NPC families and children walking around the housing wards to make them feel a little more alive.
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