Any chance on classic XI-style "pull camps?"

[syntaxlies]

when they redo the zones and make them smaller i wouldn't be surprised to see it come back. as of now they have added tons of grind camps with rapid spawn so you dont have to roam as much. 2.0 will have smaller zones with hopfully more players so something will have to be different and im sure they are aware of it.

it doesn't bother me that you cant kite endless distance since its an anti rmt mechanic and i prob wouldn't be doing it anyway.

[Pancakes]

Hope not. Camping is too boring

[Nakiamiie]

Both are fine and we can already do them, moving around is easier to get experience chains if the monsters are spread out (hunting raptors in La Noscea and other field creatures, for example) while camping is useful when the monsters are tightly packed together (beastmen strongholds and dungeons for example).

It's already possible to camp, I don't see any problem. It's up to the party to decide which they prefer best, then pick a proper location to hunt.

[auritribe]

Camping for XP has no place in a modern MMORPG.

It honestly didn't have a place in any older MMORPG's either. It is a concept that should have never been introduced into the genre, and merely a byproduct of making all the monsters worth XP near impossible to solo.

[Rokien]

Thats why you had a .... pt?

[Xoo]

Camping for XP has no place in a modern MMORPG.

It honestly didn't have a place in any older MMORPG's either. It is a concept that should have never been introduced into the genre, and merely a byproduct of making all the monsters worth XP near impossible to solo.

What does it have a place for? I mean, on the flipside, I detest doing quests for any reason at all. It all depends on personal flavor. That's why this MMO may be for you, or maybe it isn't.

[Rubicon]

For me, I miss the thrill of getting that awesome party at any level range after you've been repeatedly subjected to the awfulness it can be. I don't care what anyone says, there was a degree of strategy in an XI grind party that doesn't seem to exist in XIV. When you have an efficient puller, a good tank who's quick on the voke, THF who could land SATA quickly each and every time (and used status bolts!), a BRD/NIN that could sleep one mob and pull the next in succession (pre-meripo), the list goes on..

What do we have in XIV? In my opinion, it's a spamfest that requires little more than Stoneskin, Curaga, Shock Spikes, and a whole slew of generic AoE weaponskills.

The jobs in this game need a helluva lot more depth to be interesting.

I am really hoping that Yoshida's mage comments recently change this for the better. Starting with interruptions from movement, it forces the mages to stand still. Melees can't run around willy-nilly if their healer has to stand still, and AOE spam-fests from THM will slow down. I don't think it will bring pull camps back, per se, but it's a move that direction.

[syntaxlies]

I am really hoping that Yoshida's mage comments recently change this for the better. Starting with interruptions from movement, it forces the mages to stand still. Melees can't run around willy-nilly if their healer has to stand still, and AOE spam-fests from THM will slow down. I don't think it will bring pull camps back, per se, but it's a move that direction.

im usually standing still anyway so i can continue to recover mp. i only move if i have to.

[Jinko]

What do we have in XIV? In my opinion, it's a spamfest that requires little more than Stoneskin, Curaga, Shock Spikes, and a whole slew of generic AoE weaponskills.

Someones not played the game since 1.20 :P

[Sojiro]

I would ideally like to see various, feasible methods of level progression, through quests, stationary/roaming grind parties, hamlet defense (which i'm guessing would be like campaign battles from XI) and instanced dungeons. Whether or not they can achieve that and make them all viable may be a bit unrealistic, but its what I would like to see. For me they all are fun, just depends on my mood and time available to play.