Riding Maps removed! Mount Speed Increase Upgrade 2???

[Rinuko]

It's semi relevant if he played 4 years and complains that he can't access these items cause he don't meet the requirements. But I guess you won't see my side and be rude about it. Good day.

[ErryK]

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Well if he doesn't play the MSQ and has been playing for four years, who else is to blame for him not playing the MSQ in those four years and then complaining on the OF? Us?

[alimdia]

Well if he doesn't play the MSQ and has been playing for four years, who else is to blame for him not playing the MSQ in those four years and then complaining on the OF? Us?

He was complaining about seeing items in a shop and said items randomly disappearing, given the context there's no need to point fingers, even at the OP.

[ErryK]

He was complaining about seeing items in a shop and said items randomly disappearing, given the context there's no need to point fingers, even at the OP.

Well his attitude certainly doesn't motivate people so what's the difference?

[kikix12]

Well if he doesn't play the MSQ and has been playing for four years, who else is to blame for him not playing the MSQ in those four years and then complaining on the OF? Us?

No one is to blame for anything. Unless he looks at a different tab than he should, then him. But that's got nothing to do with length of his play.

Both you and Rinuko miss a very important part. He could access them before (or so he claims) and he cannot access them now (or so he claims). If he couldn't have accessed them before, then this thread would have ended on "progress on the main quest storyline"...and that's all. But as it is, there IS something off. Either his error (wrong tab) or a change to prerequisites that is on a per-expansion basis instead of being universal are most likely coolprits.

Also, stop looking to blame someone for everything. Especially since you don't lose anything in majority of what other players do. "Blaming" is something you do when someone did something that resulted in a loss for you, or at least someone related to you. Blaming random people for stuff that does not affect you in any actual way is rude.

But I guess you won't see my side and be rude about it. Good day.

Huh?! How was I rude?! I simply stated cold facts. the length of his subscription is irrelevant, because it's not something that's unlocked by length of subscription. How long he plays would matter only for discussion about veteran rewards. Simple as that. The rude one was you, you even had to self-censor yourself.

[Pence]

It's semi relevant if he played 4 years and complains that he can't access these items cause he don't meet the requirements. But I guess you won't see my side and be rude about it. Good day.

OP seems to have 17 months subbed on that account at best, his last veteran reward was Wind-Up Goblin - which is the 15 month reward, the 18 month being Wind-Up Gilgamesh. He also has hardly any minions or mounts.....for someone 'doing all the sidestuff'...everything about his thread is weird. From not giving enough information to not understanding why people are requesting a pic.

[Rinuko]

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*eye roll* It's possible they added the requirement at a later date, you know a patch?
If he did see it before SB was active in his account. Which i now doubt but we'll never know.

The fact i brought up the sub time is its unreal to me (and obviously other people too) that if you played this game for so long (4 years or more if you were around beta) and havn't even cleared base msq (meaning up to 2.1)? Then I think it's a valid question what you been up to during this time. Again OP never said he took longer period of breakes to explain why he didnt beat Ultimate Weapon.

Considering how much in this game are gated behind MSQ i find this questionable.

OP seems to have 17 months subbed on that account at best, his last veteran reward was Wind-Up Goblin - which is the 15 month reward, the 18 month being Wind-Up Gilgamesh. He also has hardly any minions or mounts.....for someone 'doing all the sidestuff'...everything about his thread is weird. From not giving enough information to not understanding why people are requesting a pic.

Lol, im leaning more towards what someone already said. OP smells like a troll poster

[ErryK]

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I'm not looking for someone to blame, but if his issue is he's not able to access the mount speed upgrades and he doesn't have the 2.0 MSQ completed, which is apparently the "flag" for the second speed upgrades, then the only thing we can do is tell him he needs to do the MSQ to get them. I don't think he saw them before, he may have confused them with something else. His lack of a screenshot doesn't help, his attitude doesn't help either. So no, I'm not trying to blame him, but at the same time, if he's unable to cooperate, then it falls onto him and not us for the fact that he isn't getting the help he's asking for. I'm not vilifying him, but I'd rather you didn't vilify me for his own errors.

[kikix12]

*eye roll* It's possible they added the requirement at a later date, you know a patch?

Then the answer would be that they changed that in a patch. But no one said that. Whether or not that was the case.

The fact i brought up the sub time is its unreal to me (and obviously other people too) that if you played this game for so long (4 years or more if you were around beta) and havn't even cleared base msq (meaning up to 2.1)?

It being real or unreal is not relevant though. That's my point. Whether or not that is true simply have zero effect on the content of what the main post is about. It's like this. If a person asks you what hour is it, do you answer them by saying that there's a pharmacy behind them and then move on?! No. This is exactly what you did. And you even implied to connect that "pharmacy" answer with the "time" question, as if they were in any way related.

Then I think it's a valid question what you been up to during this time.

It may be a valid question...for a topic that is related to "time". This is not. It's just not relevant.

Lol, im leaning more towards what someone already said. OP smells like a troll poster

Maybe. But if that's the case...then there would be even less of a point in your writing what you did. The original poster got an answer that may solve his problem. There was another person in this thread claiming the same, that may end up having their problem solved in just the same way. Nothing else matters. This may be a general discussion forum, but threads are started for specific reasons. They are not for general discussion about random stuff you can think of, or to satisfy your curiosity. If you want such a thread...go ahead and make one. Heck, make one, with a link to this, discussing whether this thread is a troll thread or not, or a more general thread about people that claim to have played for a long time, while their progress is slow, and whether it's reasonable or what can be the reason for that.

And on that note, this entire discussion is off on those grounds...so this'll be the last post from me on the matter.

I'm not vilifying him, but I'd rather you didn't vilify me for his own errors.

I don't vilify anyone. I just said that bringing into question his claim of being a player from beta is not relevant for the discussion, and that you, while defending the poster that brought up his game time, implied that he's to blame for something. "(...)who else is to blame for him not playing the MSQ in those four years and then complaining on the OF?". The bolded part clearly states that there is someone to blame. If there was an option of there being no one to blame assumed there, then the word blame wouldn't even have been used, let alone in that context. Using the word "responsible" would be far more suitable, saying that the responsibility for him not having access to the maps is on him.

However, "blame" is one of the words that are extremely overused. It have negative connotations to it, while people use it willy nilly, completely ignoring that fact. It's just how language is, and can't really be helped though, so there's no reason to vilify anyone in particular for that...except some language teachers, that is.

[Pence]

I just said that bringing into question his claim of being a player from beta is not relevant for the discussion,

The OP was the one to bring it up in the first place. If the OP finds it a suitable discussion in his own thread, why hang people out to dry for also mentioning it?