DPS frustration

[LadyKairi]

What this thread is teaching me is that anyone who isn't max geared i340 doing 100th percentile damage should be kicked from Susano/Laksmi.

Is this message you guys really want to be sending? There's a very fine line between expecting decent play and expecting literal perfection and I feel like it's crossed way too much.

Where are you getting that from? As I recall no one said anything like that. Like, what? There's people trying to help OP and there's people mad at OP for saying their jobs/roles are "easy".
/think

[Areic]

Comes down to the class and the playstyle and how you blend into that.

Some people do disgusting DPS on BLM, I never could, wasn't that great at it. Monk though, I can pound out some numbers, RDM too, but RDM is easy mode. To me, tanking, healing, and dpsing is all very easy at least to the bare minimum of your class, you just have to practice your rotations and positioning because it's widely different between almost every class.

[RLofOBFL]

Basic rotation (Sharpcast):

B3 > (Enochian if it's off) > B4 > T3 > Foul > F3 > F4 > F4 > Sharpcast > F1 > F4 > F4 > Firestarter > F4 > F4 > to standard rotation

Basic rotation (Standard):

B3 > (Enochian if it's off) > B4 > T3 > Foul > F3 > F4 > F4 > F4 > F1 > F4 > F4 > (Firestarter) > F4 > to Sharpcast rotation

Basic opener:

B3 > Enochian > B4 > T3 > (Foul if ready from a previous encounter) > Ley Lines > F3 > Triplecast > F4 > F4 > F4 > Sharpcast > F1 > F4 > F4 > F4 > Firestarter > Convert > F4 > F4 > to standard rotation

(There are various more specific openers floating around for different situations, but this one works for most.)

Alternate back and forth between the Sharpcast and standard rotations as Sharpcast becomes available again.

Use Swiftcast or Triplecast to fit a Thundercloud into the standard rotation if necessary, to facilitate movement, or just for a DPS gain if no mechanics are coming soon.

Use Ley Lines on cooldown, but watch your Foul timer so you don't outrun it.

The Umbral Ice phase is flexible; you can move spells around as long as you never wait for an MP tick after B3, and never end the phase on a hardcast T3 (a Thundercloud is fine).

If you're having trouble casting the standard rotation (without procs) without using Triplecast, you need to stack more Spell Speed.

The opener given here is very flexible; move Triplecast wherever needed to get through early-fight movement. Place Ley Lines strategically and minimize movement time with Between the Lines and Aetherial Manipulation. If you get a Thundercloud proc, use it as late as possible without letting Thunder fall off, and move the F4s around so the grouping that contains the Thundercloud only has two F4s.

If all else fails, use Transpose or bail out of the rotation early with the opposing tier III spell. Saving Enochian and the Foul timer are your top priority.

AoE is (B3 > Enochian) > T4 > B4 > F3 > Flare > Flare > (Convert > Flare) > Transpose > repeat from T4. Throw Foul in anywhere it won't kill your timer. Simple but very effective.

Stolen from reddit

[missybee]

Here's the thing though - you claim that healer and tank are easier roles (which they may very well be), but the best of the best are still going to be trying to max out their DPS on those roles in addition to their main duties.

At least on DPS, you only have to focus on that?

Maybe give RDM a try? It's got a pretty simple rotation, and isn't the worst DPS (at least I don't think it is...).

[AkashiXI]

General rule of thumb is that any top 95% Damage Done (worldwide) are bloated numbers. Either they're being fed cards, have an insanely quick kill, or they're allowed to do basically nothing. That's usually what happens with healer numbers that are 3k+. There are anomalys, but definitely few and far between.

[MyaValentine]

alright I do admit that "average healer" was an overexageration. but, not entirely the point. while in fights healers can do 1.3-1.9 depending on how "average" you can do damage, 2.3 damage as a tank is still horrible and not something you should feel confortable with one should always aim to improve and most of the comments was directed to OP topic about tanks not BLM as he seemed that he wanted to give up because is harder to pull numbers and I won't encourage that type of behavior "just give up, it's just a game" OP just seem to belive tanking is easy because he thinks he's doing good but when looking at the numbers he's not nearly doing good enough to truly know how hard it's to do as good as dps number wise. BLM and his situation is the same, he thinks is harder hence he wants to give up but when it comes down is just another missconception becuase he's just not doing it right.

and yall are trying to climb too much on things that wasn't the point of the comment so get off the high horse everyone the point is to help OP either with empathetic feedback or constructive criticism.

for clarification: yes "average healer" was an overexageration, move on.

[Miste]

and yall are trying to climb too much on things that wasn't the point of the comment so get off the high horse everyone the point is to help OP either with empathetic feedback or constructive criticism.

for clarification: yes "average healer" was an overexageration, move on.

Uh...we were just having a discussion about it. There was no "high horse" or anything... we were just talking? You don't have to take offense to it as I am sure no one had the aim to be offensive. Just talking about stuff.

[MyaValentine]

Uh...we were just having a discussion about it. There was no "high horse" or anything... we were just talking? You don't have to take offense to it as I am sure no one had the aim to be offensive. Just talking about stuff.

reading it again you are right I don't know why the first time sounded more direct my bad, disregard my second remark.

[Miste]

reading it again you are right I don't know why the first time sounded more direct my bad, disregard my second remark.

No problem. Just wanted to clarify to you that I'm sure no one had any ill intentions towards you, I know I didn't, so don't worry.

[LadyKairi]

If you see healers on that level, then the most important difference for their dmg is their mindest towards healing in this game. Having an main and off heal is not efficient and those numbers from both healers at the same time are only possible when you heal together and use instant heals most of the time. They plan an fight out and communicate during it sometimes. It also helps, if you have an good knowledge of all tanks and healers, since you can judge better what is possible for the other healer/tanks.

Wish we could do away with the main heal/off heal crap. I'm always stuck in the off healer role, and it's not fun, unless things go sour. I wanna heal too ):