Is the vote kick system improperly implemented for how it's actually being used?

[Miste]

I'm not sure why your reply is so condescending, but that wasn't necessary.

That being said, working in software dev, it's not the user's fault if your UI doesn't make it clear that options exist. If I don't know how to find it, or worse don't know it exists; that's on the devs, actually.

I wasn't being condescending I was pointing out you should research what you are talking about before you declare changes need to be made. It's just a good idea. So you don't waste your time mentioning something that already exists and if you care about the issue you will find features you want that are already there and so you can make use of said features. I mean it just helps you; that is all.

It's not on the devs. If you cared to know all the features this game offers you would read the patch notes when they update the game. They list everything they add when they add it and what it is used for.

Also if you cared to know things that the game you are playing offers you would actively look through the menus and see what is there. The feature you are looking for is in the same menu as Friendlist and Blacklist. How can they make it easier to find? It's right there in the menu with FC and Linkshell too so probably even more options you use frequently. Also when they add new menu options they highlight it with an icon to point it out to you showing you it is new. So I just don't understand how this isn't clear enough.

I mean it seems like you didn't care to look at what it was when they added it. So you missed it. That isn't the devs fault. You just didn't care to read the patch notes or look at your in-game menus. I mean if there was a feature I wished a game had I actually would go look for it first to make sure I am not missing something or forgetting what is available because you might get delightfully surprised and it has the feature already and you can smile and put it to use.

I never said they have a system for analyzing outliers. I just said the previous duty with other player's names already exists and that people have the option to send a report for a kick they think was unjustified, but in general when someone gets kicked they probably always think it is unjustified even if it might not be. I mean as the person who was kicked you almost always would be pissed off and you might not be able to reconcile that it might have been your own fault at first until some time passes and you have a clear head to realize that you maybe did do something to cause the kick to happen. Not saying that is always the case though.

[ColeSlawter]

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In one post you complain you are unfairly kicked for someone not playing properly, then another post you admit you kick somebody for not playing properly after you harass them for not having the gear you approve of ... sounds like SE should just give you special veto privileges ... maybe you are head of household?

Sounds to me like you attract drama and instead of always being the victim you should take a look at how you are treating other people.

If SE wants to investigate the rumored abuse of vote kick system it would be quite easy to do. Set up counters on each character, one for votes initiated and another for vote kicked. Each week/month/quarter/whatever they can check the percentage of instances run compared to votes initiated and times kicked. Determine an acceptable range for each and then take actions accordingly. They do this without telling anyone and they can collect all the data they would need.

I believe the outcome would be there is not rampant abuse, there is not even "just rare" abuse. There are most likely 100s of thousands of instances completed by the community as a hole without abuse happening. People who keep running into this constantly getting kicked are just being jerks and randoms don't like them for it.

They could increase the vote requirement from 2 to 3 in 4-man content but that usually isn't going to matter.