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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    At the moment all I can think of is removing that option completely.

    This will leave the player with 4 options.

    1 - Leaving duty and taking the penalty.
    2 - Be more comparative with the party.
    3 - Sit/Stand and do nothing.
    4 - Fake DC.
    You see this as more fair? I don't. I see more problems with this especially since #2 you mention....if people cannot kick the person there is no reason to be more cooperative if they don't feel like it. Trolls will likely take advantage of being immune to being kicked from groups. They can play however they want and not get kicked just to troll and end up making the 3 other people in the group waste their game time.

    A DPS that just auto attacks, a healer who doesn't heal, a tank who doesn't tank? Can't kick them! I guess you are okay with taking a 30 minute lockout to your personal play time due to someone else trolling or playing so incompetently that you cannot complete the duty even if you tried?? I am not. Also one person trolling makes three other people have to leave and requeue with one of them getting a penalty to boot. Sounds ridiculous.

    One person wasting three other player's game time............and nothing you can do about it except "not play the game" by AFKing or fake d/cing or leaving the duty and getting 30 min penalty and not being able to complete what you wanted/needed to complete. Doesn't sound fair or a good idea to me.

    Oh, and before you say "it's okay to kick a troll", if the person trolling doesn't openly admit to trolling then under your new rules of not being able to vote kick for "differing play styles" it means if you kick them without knowing you will get punished if he reports you. SE cannot punish the troll without some kind of proof in chat logs that the trolling was intentional.

    The way the system is now isn't perfect because it is impossible to make it perfect, but the system now how it is negatively affects the least amount of players. Again majority > minority. Three people is more than one and I asked for a way to make the system "more fair" than it is now. Letting one player cause three others to have to get 30 min lockouts and/or having to requeue and wait in line again is not fair.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    Honestly I think they should just list "difference in playstyle" as an option. If GMs already accept it as a valid reason to kick, might as well add it in.
    I mean yeah they could I suppose, but I am okay that it isn't there as a visual option in-game personally. I mean I don't want to promote kicking people for that reason, it is just a reason that has to be used sometimes if there is a clash in opinions and people are not willing to compromise when it is necessary.
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    Last edited by Miste; 09-27-2017 at 11:57 AM.