Is the vote kick system improperly implemented for how it's actually being used?

[Seredeelfer]

Oh for the love of the 12... Mayhap we should focus less on reasons to kick someone and more on how to have fun in the random group for whom we chose to queue.

[Zarabeth]

People need to stop being ridiculous and just play the game. So what if someone wants to go faster or slower than you want to. Meet in the middle; slow speed up a bit fast slow down a bit. Kicking everyone you don't agree with is a waste of time. Kicking is supposed to be for afkers and jerks who deliberately try to screw up the dungeon for others. Stop using it for every little thing. In the op's case (assuming that's how it really went down) I'd have reported them and moved on. No need for a giant post. Just move on.

[Vahlnir]

It's implemented fine. If there's some sort of abuse, then it is a reportable offense. They take those very seriously from what I hear. That said, I've never seen it abused. There has been a couple "playstyle differences", but for the most part someone only gets the boot if they d/ced and haven't returned for some time. The only time I've vote kicked someone for playstyle differences was one time in Brayflox normal. Took a long time to get to the final boss, and we kept wiping repeatedly because the tank didn't know how to do anything but swing a sword. I lost count of the wipes, but at one point we were actually running out of time. Like, if they had been allowed to stay in the group for 1 or 2 more wipes, we seriously wouldn't have finished the dungeon. So, despite advice being given, and them not listening, I had them vote kicked and it was unanimous. New tank joined and we cleared right then and there. One and done. The system is in place for a reason, such as this little story I've shared. Or to remove party members who aren't coming back. And it works.

[SigmaOZ]

That should count as one more penalty against the abusive players whom just want to join any party whether they understand the other members or not, GMs should then take that into account and if they (abusive players) fail to understand the language set by the user being dismissed, said offenders should be found liable for misuse and add to their corresponding punishment!...

I wish GMs took vote dismissing seriously but we don't get any proof that abusive players are actually punished, at the very least we can blacklist undesirable people now, regardless of their world!...

[Chocolys]

I agree with the OP, the votekick system could use improvement.

The targeted player of a votekick should informed of the current vote, so he can defend himself or ask what is going on if there is no apparent reason for him to be kicked.

And the name of the player who initiates the votekick should be announced. Being anonymous only encourages abuse.

[LaylaTsarra]

I have close to 7,000 duties on my main alone not counting my 5 fully leveled alts and I can say that people are rarely kicked in duty finder in my experience unless they AFK or DC. I would venture to say those who see a lot more kicks may in fact be the ones initiating the kicks or are talking about party finder and duties like clears for deltascape and the like where people join who have no clears or who are seriously under performing.

[Yeol]

I have close to 7,000 duties on my main alone not counting my 5 fully leveled alts and I can say that people are rarely kicked in duty finder in my experience unless they AFK or DC. I would venture to say those who see a lot more kicks may in fact be the ones initiating the kicks or are talking about party finder and duties like clears for deltascape and the like where people join who have no clears or who are seriously under performing.

Agreed.

Even if you end up with a pre-made group in DF. They have no good reason to kick you.

I personally think kicking for different playstyle should not be allowed. It is getting abused a lot. SE should look into their policy and update it.

[Miste]

I personally think kicking for different playstyle should not be allowed. It is getting abused a lot. SE should look into their policy and update it.

Update it to what though?

If they don't allow kicks for different play styles I don't think you realize what would happen....you would get punished for removing any player even if one single player was forcing their play style on 3 others who didn't want it.

Like the tank situation I mentioned. The tank wants to speed run and pulls multiple groups. The healer feels stressed and doesn't like it so they ask them to just do single pulls please and the two DPS agree with healer. The tank ignores this and continues to multipull.

They can't kick the tank because it would be a differing play styles issue so if they do they'll all get punished for abusing the system. What now? Vote abandon and force everyone to requeue and wait even longer due to one person who didn't want to compromise in group content? Doesn't seem fair.

[Yeol]

If they don't allow kicks for different play styles I don't think you realize what would happen....you would get punished for removing any player even if one single player was forcing their play style on 3 others who didn't want it.

Forcing people to do something that they don't want to is a kind of harassment. They are not abusing anything in this situation.

In your example, if they ask the tank nicely but he keeps on ignoring them and kept forcing his style. Just kick him for harassment.

In the end, you want people to be more cooperative rather than selfish. This is one of the ways to make sure that players adjust to their party needs.

[Zojha]

Forcing people to do something that they don't want to is a kind of harassment.

But that then means you'd be harassing the tank by forcing him to do smaller pulls (which he doesn't want) and then you'd kick him if he doesn't comply to your harassment.

Wow. You've literally justified mobbing there. Gee, you should really think that through again. Playstyle differences aren't harassment.