When dps dont aoe should they just get kicked from the start?

[Altena]

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DRG AoE is actually quite solid :/

Especially now with Sonic Thrust giving you blood timer, you can use Nastrond if the tank is pulling quick enough as well..

Just work on your own positioning. There are very few situations where you can't hit 3 or more mobs with a Spike/Sonic combo.

[Waliel]

You're throwing out (200 x # of enemies) potency damage that doesn't degrade every few seconds.

That's not how Dualcast works. Scatter is still 100 per GCD used. Instead of doing 100 every 2.5s, you're doing 200 every 5s.

[HyoMinPark]

That's not how Dualcast works. Scatter is still 100 per GCD used. Instead of doing 100 every 2.5s, you're doing 200 every 5s.

200 potency every 5 seconds times X number of mobs versus 470 every 5 seconds X a single mob—scatter spam still wins out at 3+ mobs over single-target.

[NintenPyjak64]

according to the wiki: Sonic Thrust Delivers an attack with a potency of 100 to all enemies in a straight line before you.

No googling needed



The tool tip CLEARLY STATES it's linear, not conal. If this guy even bothered to read his tooltips, then he (and everybody else) would know their job better


Sadly, the only times I don't AoE on big pulls is when I'm forced to while I have no TP while Invig is on cooldown. There's nothing else I can do really. It's even worse if my partner is a melee w/o Goad... Can't wait to get RDM to 70 (after WAR)

Good example is the after the first barricade in TotF. I'm AoEing to kill the 3 Coeurl and the wall, the mosslings pop, and most tanks I've experienced grab them then start pulling up to before the Coeurls with the second barricade. I have no time to regen TP

[Firesped]

I have a specific way I play my bard. In general, I try to save up my cooldowns on the pull before a boss, so I can use them on the boss. AoE uses massively more TP then single target attacks and my tp regens might be on cooldown still when we hit the boss. There are also other effects that play on your party as well. different dps jobs work better with other dps jobs.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I have a specific way I play my bard. In general, I try to save up my cooldowns on the pull before a boss, so I can use them on the boss. AoE uses massively more TP then single target attacks and my tp regens might be on cooldown still when we hit the boss. There are also other effects that play on your party as well. different dps jobs work better with other dps jobs.

Don't save your cooldowns. Dungeon bosses are laughably easy. You want your buffs on the trash pulls if the tank opts to pull everything. Raging Strikes on 5-9 targets is significantly more beneficial than on one. It doesn't matter what job you play, aoe damage on large pulls is always better.

[Rokke]

I have a specific way I play my bard. In general, I try to save up my cooldowns on the pull before a boss, so I can use them on the boss. AoE uses massively more TP then single target attacks and my tp regens might be on cooldown still when we hit the boss.

Naw, pop them CDs liberally in dungeons. You don't need tp regens at the start of a boss, if you're dry when you hit the purple gate ask tank for a sec to start refilling it, start fight and then use the regen whenever its up.

[Laerune]

I have a specific way I play my bard. In general, I try to save up my cooldowns on the pull before a boss, so I can use them on the boss. AoE uses massively more TP then single target attacks and my tp regens might be on cooldown still when we hit the boss. There are also other effects that play on your party as well. different dps jobs work better with other dps jobs.

Unless you are close to a boss, always use your cooldown, most have 30 seconds, 60 seconds or 180 seconds cooldown, its a waste to not use them.

[Waliel]

200 potency every 5 seconds times X number of mobs versus 470 every 5 seconds X a single mob—scatter spam still wins out at 3+ mobs over single-target.

Yes, and? I was only saying Dualcast doesn't make the spell GCD free like you could understand from the post I was quoting. Scatter spam does the same DPS regardless of Dualcast.

[Snow_Princess]

I have a specific way I play my bard. In general, I try to save up my cooldowns on the pull before a boss, so I can use them on the boss. AoE uses massively more TP then single target attacks and my tp regens might be on cooldown still when we hit the boss.There are also other effects that play on your party as well. different dps jobs work better with other dps jobs.

Don't save your cooldowns. Dungeon bosses are laughably easy. You want your buffs on the trash pulls if the tank opts to pull everything. Raging Strikes on 5-9 targets is significantly more beneficial than on one. It doesn't matter what job you play, aoe damage on large pulls is always better.

and now I see why there is such a skill gap with brds.

You want to buff aoe damage, it makes the run faster compared to a boss, no one cares about a trash boss dying 30 sec quicker. Also keep in mind people wised up with LB use too, if there is a caster or range, those lbs are used on mega pulls, not melee on boss. So ya what Bourne_Endeavor said. If tank is pulling big, your way stresses the healer and aware ones hate you for it.