When dps dont aoe should they just get kicked from the start?

[DPZ2]

Then for the actual thread: If you're doing low-level content you have to keep in mind when the jobs get their aoes... Then Dragoon only get doom spike at level 40.

at 40 you get Doomspike, and hope the Tank has nicely lined up the 8 mobs they just pulled so that this Straight. Line. AoE will actually touch more than 2 of them.

At 50, you get Dragonfire Dive, a truly great AoE. Once. Every. Two. Minutes.

At 60, you get Geirskogul, a truly great AoE. Once. Every. Thirty-five. Seconds. IF the tank lines up more than 2 of the mobs.

At 62, you get Sonic Thrust, a so-so AoE unless you alternate it with Doomspike and IF THE TANK LINES UP MORE THAN 2 of the mobs.

See a pattern here?

I have a better chance of AoE as Bard using Quick Nock and Rain of Death.

Not all DPS are built for great AoE.

In my opinion, the stupidest tank is the one who pulls massively with a Dragoon and Monk in tow.

[Cenerae]

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Doomspike isn't that hard to aim, though. As long as the mobs are all on the tank as they should be, and he isn't being a dingbat and having stuff tanked both in front and behind him, it's not that difficult to position so that the line passes through at least the majority of the enemies.

I'm not sure why you think it's such a big problem, the projectile isn't needle thin or anything.

[bswpayton]

at 40 you get Doomspike, and hope the Tank has nicely lined up the 8 mobs they just pulled so that this Straight. Line. AoE will actually touch more than 2 of them.

This is crazy talk Ive seen dragoons and ninjas melt mobs faster than two casters, you keep talkin about the tank when Im playing dragoon I just simply move to get the best aim as long as the tank is using df cool downs. And if they are using aoe as well because wow dang if dps want even use aoe then the amount of tanks that dont use it is even worse, a good tank will use their aoe as well if they are doing this then dragoon can do tons of aoe damage

[JunseiKei]

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As long as you hit 4 enemies in 1 attack, you're doing more DPS.

Again, monk does great AoE. If that dragon that think it can't AoE actually AoEs, the two melee won't have issues. If only 1 is AoEing, there's not going to be enough damage going out and there will be issues.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

In my opinion, the stupidest tank is the one who pulls massively with a Dragoon and Monk in tow.

Uh... Monk has monstrous aoe, and Dragoon is no slouch either. On a mass pull, even if Doom Spike misses a few mobs, it will still far surpass single targets. Once again, let's calculate numbers.

Heavy Thrust + Full Thrust combo + Fang & Claw + Wheeling Thrust + Geirskogul equates to 1,810 potency to a single target.
Heavy Thrust + Doom Spike + Sonic Thrust + Geirskogul equates to 670 potency to multiple targets. This is achieved with three less button presses. Adjusting for the equivalent button presses, the potency increases to 1,100.

With just six mobs pulled, Dragoon AoE potency reaches 6,600 potency compared to a single target rotation only reaching 2,910 (Geirskogul would still hit multiple targets). Bear in mind, numbers would further increase with Dragonfire Dive, Nastrond and utility buffs. Basically, there is no reason to ever single target during big pulls.

[Altena]

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DRG AoE is actually quite solid :/

Especially now with Sonic Thrust giving you blood timer, you can use Nastrond if the tank is pulling quick enough as well..

Just work on your own positioning. There are very few situations where you can't hit 3 or more mobs with a Spike/Sonic combo.