Fordola

[TheCount]

It's almost as if these things are more nuanced than black and white scenarios.

Do tell what nuance there is to the actions of Fordola and her group and how you can excuse their actions in any way or make it understandable. It's not like a gun was being held to their heads every time and told to do x and y, no they made it purposefully their own goal to opress and make it as bad as possible for any of their own people they encountered in their tasks. Take that tax collection bit for example, they could have collected it and been off again but they made it a point to stomp and beat the man half to death, all the while one ranted about ala mhigans being stuck in the past or somesuch

So it was their own view that their people were mongrels and deserving of the punishment their group gave them so liberally. Their own actions got them a reputation as some of the most cruel amongst those loyal to the Empire.

I could understand if they were legitimately a group of people that weren't liked by both sides and just tried to carve a position of respect and maybe 'going easy' on their own people despite the way they were viewed because THEN there would be some nuance to the actions they might have done, good or bad, but they purposefully didn't do any of that. In fact they fully sided with the Empire in every way and made it a point to hand out punishment even where it was not demanded by their own will. They were complete d-heads for no good reason.

[LineageRazor]

I don't expect a redemption arc for Fordola because, in her mind, after all her efforts to save Ala Mhigo and earn them (and herself) the respect of their Garlean superiors, the Alliance marched in and doomed the nation to destruction. As far as she's concerned, we haven't liberated Ala Mhigo, but instead removed any possibility that they will ever be allowed to be part of the Empire. The Garleans are still a threat and when (NOT "if") they return in force, they will NOT give Ala Mhigo a second chance. They will burn it to the ground.

Our defeat of Zenos hasn't "opened her eyes", but instead proven to her that the entire Allied nations are full of the blind; idiots who can't see how futile it is to stand against Garlemand. Effectively, we've destroyed her, we've destroyed her homeland, and we've destroyed everything she's been working to accomplish her entire life. No, she won't want redemption. She'll be wanting revenge.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

From a writer's perspective, there's the saying that "No villain is truly evil". Sure, modern works give us sociopaths (Zenos) and "just want to watch the world burn" types, but most if not all villains have some sense of "right" behind their actions.

In Fordola's case, remember, she grew up in occupied Ala Mihgo. For her and others like her, Garlean servitude was the better option (with total oppression and/or death being the worse options). She knew this, and she knew who she was working for but in her own jaded way, she too had pride for her homeland. Notice how she was visibly upset when Garleans talked down to her and her unit? The opposite would be Yotsuyu, who - by her own admission - got dealt such a crappy hand repeatedly in life that she just became a mean, selfish woman who really only cared for herself (in before hard Tsundere switch with Gosetsu, calling it now).

[Savagelf]

when everything one work for is destroy one pride become like deflated balloon. One must slow begin to realize when one is wrong and start make thing right. I believe Genaral Rauban will be and advisor to the new leader of Ala Mihgo Lyse but what title will Lyse take Duchress of Ala Mihgo. I doubt she want leadership now it be thrust on her. sometime the great leader is those that have leadership force on them though I think be interesting is for twist in story she married the king of Doman

[Areic]

I rarely have wanted a character dead so much, that it kept disappointing me when she got away from us.

She's done so much crap and was such a hardcore traitor, if she gets a redemption story I'll be ticked and kick that b%^&* in the shin anyway

[Eyvhokan]

I rarely have wanted a character dead so much, that it kept disappointing me when she got away from us.

She's done so much crap and was such a hardcore traitor, if she gets a redemption story I'll be ticked and kick that b%^&* in the shin anyway

In what way was she a traitor?

[shao32]

well i hope she lead a new resistance against the eorzean opressors, that will be more interesting ^^

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Eorzean oppressors?

Lol, even if Eorzea were keen to that, it not only took the combined might of all 4 city states, but another country and several warrior tribes to pull off what they did. Eorzea couldn't "oppress" much of anything on its own, much less occupy Ala Mihgo. After all, it took 20 years for them to even consider trying to fight back and retake their own eastern border.

[Jandor]

After all, it took 20 years for them to even consider trying to fight back and retake their own eastern border.

Seems people pretty severely overestimated the Empire, turns out they're such a minor threat they can't even derail mine and Lyse's far east holiday plans.

[Kallera]

I'm not sure if the writer's can conceive of the Alliance losing anything, really. There is too much NPC plot armor established, and the general region of Eorzea are basically untouchable areas.