Why do tanks no use coold downs?

[GDFletcher]

Certainly depends on the dungeon, there are certain times when pulling trash you will need to use Rampart and Sentinel but then there are times you wont need to because of the level sync system still makes you dodge a ton of attacks. When I see my life bar going like a yoyo I will use cool downs because I know I am being seriously threatened, if my life bar is stable and I can see I have not been healed then I wont waste my cool downs at that point. For those tanks that aint using cool downs when they are in the oh shit im being hit hard stage, they they are not tanks, they are people rolling them to avoid queues. I have been tanking on MMO games for over 10 years and this game as certainly been the most annoying to tank

[NintenPyjak64]

I never, ever feel safe when Bardram's pops up.

I was excited to level a healer and play that for the first time since ARR.

I starytsd with AST... And that dungeon made me legit stressed. The only times it went even remotely well was tanks that did single pulls (bless their hearts). That dungeon made me realize too that I didn't like AST so I ploughed through if as WHM, then the following dungeon...

I'm not a drinker but a few brews would have been nice there...

[silverlunarfox]

I ran across this in my keeper of the lake 50/60 roulette choice yesterday. The answer is, some tanks are just BAD.

No, I like spam healing...keep not using them..... T.T

[bswpayton]

its called being bad same with dps who dont aoe

[MoroMurasaki]

Is everyone familiar with the concept of degrees of separation?

It's often used colloquially to describe how 'close' to a celebrity someone is. Like "My aunt's husband used to background dance for Christina Aguilera" would mean you were 2 degrees away from knowing Christina Aguilera. Or I guess one depending on whether or not you know your aunt's husband.

I bring this up because I think any post in the healer forum is at maximum 2 degrees away from being turned into a healer DPS debate. I'd say anything about gameplay on the OF is probably a max of 5 degrees where each degree is one post.

I'm not sure it's really a good thing either. You start to see the same general arguments/angles around every corner. It's mildly upsetting.

My planned response to this discussion stil going on was something like "if a tank wants me to spend time and CDs spamming Cure II on him instead of DPSing that's on him" and then I had to reign myself in because that could have been the catalyst to derail this thread into that same damn direction all over again.

[QT_Melon]

Dungeons are the PERFECT time to learn how to use Cooldowns. What's the point of cooldowns if you don't even use them when they're like a pretty significant part of your skill set to begin with? You want to muscle memory your CD placement because in content where specific ones are relevant it's less button fumbling for the right one. So use them in dungeons.

[Taika]

Dungeons are the PERFECT time to learn how to use Cooldowns. What's the point of cooldowns if you don't even use them when they're like a pretty significant part of your skill set to begin with? You want to muscle memory your CD placement because in content where specific ones are relevant it's less button fumbling for the right one. So use them in dungeons.

A great point, and it's exactly the same with healing abilities!

[technole]

I've leveled all tanks on my main, and its piss easy to use cooldowns on every pull. But apparently even hitting the brick wall icon we call Rampart is extremely difficult for many people, considering it's short CD. Then you got warrior, which is the god of cooldowns. Can even be Deliverance on-pulls and use Thrill and Convo and it's practically the same as Defiance -5%. But math is hard for those people, and the low-end just sees DPS stance, and cares less about the healer.

Then you got the low-tier tanks that think "saving" the good stuff like Hallowed Ground for emergencies is going to make them a better player when in-reality there is no emergency. Nevermind if you use it early enough on the big pull to allow healer DPS, you'll get not just one but two or even more uses in a dungeon. Once again, cooldown math is hard.

[QT_Melon]

Then you got the low-tier tanks that think "saving" the good stuff like Hallowed Ground for emergencies is going to make them a better player when in-reality there is no emergency.

The funny thing about those saving such a CD is that 90% of the time they use it too late. You have server ticks, and animation locks to think about when using a CD near death.

[ilea]

I've always liked the idea that as a tank, my health bar is out of my hands and in the healer's. This isn't to say it's not my responsibility to pop cooldowns, but that reacting purely to damage coming out is poor play. I have CDs I use depending on the packs I pull and how I expect damage to hit. It should be basic, expected play to use CDs for packs, bosses, and to plan these uses.