Multiple job jump potions for 4.1?

[Stormfur]

I could swear I remember reading this on one of the live letters or somewhere in the forum. Right now it's limited to one per service account per character. I have an alt that I would like to have a job from my main (so I have already leveled the job once and know how to do it) but can't because of this restriction. Will we have the ability to boost more jobs in 4.1?

[Malzian]

I could swear I remember reading this on one of the live letters or somewhere in the forum. Right now it's limited to one per service account per character. I have an alt that I would like to have a job from my main (so I have already leveled the job once and know how to do it) but can't because of this restriction. Will we have the ability to boost more jobs in 4.1?

They said they'd look at the data and consider it. They have not said anything beyond that aside from that the amount of potions used was lower than expected.

[Arutan]

They said they'd look at the data and consider it. They have not said anything beyond that aside from that the amount of potions used was lower than expected.

Lower or not, it's not like removing a line of code that is probably a "if bought == 1 then f. off" would be hard.

[MyaValentine]

I hope they never Implement this. I'm sure a million and one players have enough reasons to not put the effort in anything and will love to be a slaker, through some money at the screen and call it a day, but if you have a character at level 70 and you already used a jump potion time to sit down and level like anyone else. I though jump potion was "for people to catch up" but I'm sure some smart cookie is going to come up with a very ingenious detailed explanation of why they want everything handed to them. But hey that's just me I guess I'm one of those who believes on working for what you want.

[SeraphStray]

I hope they never Implement this. I'm sure a million and one players have enough reasons to not put the effort in anything and will love to be a slaker, through some money at the screen and call it a day, but if you have a character at level 70 and you already used a jump potion time to sit down and level like anyone else. I though jump potion was "for people to catch up" but I'm sure some smart cookie is going to come up with a very ingenious detailed explanation of why they want everything handed to them. But hey that's just me I guess I'm one of those who believes on working for what you want.

I kind of don't want it implemented for the same reasons. I experienced this in WoW and...well, it wasn't a good time for anyone involved.

But I can see the benefit of having it as well, you know?

[Krotoan]

I hope they never Implement this. I'm sure a million and one players have enough reasons to not put the effort in anything and will love to be a slaker, through some money at the screen and call it a day, but if you have a character at level 70 and you already used a jump potion time to sit down and level like anyone else. I though jump potion was "for people to catch up" but I'm sure some smart cookie is going to come up with a very ingenious detailed explanation of why they want everything handed to them. But hey that's just me I guess I'm one of those who believes on working for what you want.

More than one story pot would be for alts on the same account, nobody wants to go through the story twice, let alone 3 times or 8 times.
Same with jobs on those alts AND/OR your main. Learning a job has nothing to do with leveling it the "hard" way (really.. is it that hard to throw time at it till it's leveled?). I've met people who did the grind themselves and still played very oddly or non optimally. These people also don't usually take criticism well and will NOT change from whatever system they've entrenched themselves in.

Tell me how not wanting to throw another 2 weeks at leveling a class is being a slacker, with a full time job and other responsibilities? Maybe if you have the 5-6 hours a day to throw at this game it SEEMS like someone isn't putting in "the work" but some people just don't have that kind of extra time but still want to play with friends at the same level.
You claim that anyone who wants this implemented is lazy and entitled. I counter that you're not seeing it from a position that this is a game people play for entertainment, not a second job. Most of the playerbase plays for entertainment and relaxation and doesn't need even more time sinks added to the already long grind.

I personally haven't used any level or story hop pots yet, but as the jobs stack up and the story gets longer and longer, my alts languish in mediocrity. Right now they're mostly glorified storage, but if I could drop a couple dollars and bring them up to speed , my roleplaying and adventuring would open up quite a bit. I'm more than willing to put in a few hours learning a new class, even looking up rotations and optimal button layouts during work. I'd wager I could compete with a "legit" leveled person playing the same class within 3 or 4 days.


There are admittedly downsides to having pots available without restriction. RMT spammers in Kugane. Bot gil farmers at 60. These I think are the current reason SE doesn't want to open the floodgates. These are valid enough reasons to keep it to one pot per account and I'll accept them.

but "you have to earn it"? Tell me why my time spent earning the money it requires to use a jump pot is less valuable than your 2 weeks "working for what you want" in a video game. Time is always the ultimate commodity, remember that and your perception of value on many things will change drastically. You're always spending time, and you get no more of it than anyone else (give or take a few years). Spend it wisely.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

There are admittedly downsides to having pots available without restriction. RMT spammers in Kugane. Bot gil farmers at 60. These I think are the current reason SE doesn't want to open the floodgates. These are valid enough reasons to keep it to one pot per account and I'll accept them.

Actually, this is a common myth. RMTs will never purchase anything. The whole point is for them to make money without having to spend it. Spending $50 on a single character means they need to sell multiple gil packages just to break even. The chances they accomplish that before the whole account gets banned isn't high. That's why Balmung and Gilgamesh saw no RMT spam when you could still transfer to either. Just the $18 charge proved too much.

Although I also wouldn't care if they just allowed us to use it however much we're willing to pay for with no restrictions. As others have said, people who want to play well will put in the effort and those who don't....won't. But that being said, I still think having a little bit of restriction may be good since handing this out as an option may actually attract lazy players to begin with. I personally have a friend who didn't want to play until she heard that she could just buy a story and job skip potion....

To be fair, A Realm Reborn can be... daunting. You have numerous high and low points due to the overabundance of fetch and filler quests, a very slow progression system and far too many quests in general. I can't entirely blame someone for getting burnt out or not event wanting to slug through it all. Now I did enjoy ARR myself, but there were points where... it tested my patience. (Looking at you Company of Heroes).

[Krotoan]

Actually, this is a common myth. RMTs will never purchase anything. The whole point is for them to make money without having to spend it. Spending $50 on a single character means they need to sell multiple gil packages just to break even. The chances they accomplish that before the whole account gets bad isn't high. That's why Balmung and Gilgamesh saw no RMT spam when you could still transfer to either. Just the $18 charge proved too much.

Interesting, I figured they must be willing to spend some money since you can't trade with a Free Trial , and if you just want to farm the latest and greatest amounts of gil I'd have thought current mats and drops would be the best way. Glad I don't think like a gil farmer/spammer then..


All the more reason to not have limits on boost pots. =]

[Mikki]

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I'll admit, ARR can certainly be tedious. I bought the story/skip potion on my new character simply because I've done the story so many times in the past (1 - 15 multiple times on beta, and ARR in its entirety 3 times) and didn't want to do it again. And I get that some people aren't interested in the story but it really feels a shame that you would play this game and not take the time to enjoy it since it has the best story of any MMO I've ever played. And although ARR's story was the least interesting of the 3 arcs so far imo, it sets up the basis for the entire game so it's pretty important. Skipping HW is just a sin imo. The story was amazing.

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I assume they get around trading by having one account which isn't a free trial put up overpriced items on the MB and having the trial accounts which are farming gil buy them. But I don't honestly know.

[Robert_Ilcri]

Personally hope they keep it locked at one to be blunt. Far too often have I seen people who have used these things (Dungeons, trials, etc) and they just have literally no clue what they're doing with the class. The whole point of leveling up a class is to learn it as you go with it... The potions skip that whole bit which instead leads us to healers who can't heal, tanks who don't know what provoke is, and dps who just smash random buttons. So yeah, no support for more than one potion per account.