The Continued Concern of Win-Trading in The Feast

[Trinket]

I think throwers/trolls should also be condemned to some sort of punishment. I've had the same AST for about 7 games now that keeps spamming Deorbit on me and the melee DPS for no reason, which costs us kills. And doing stuff like that really makes the game much less fun and turns it frustrating if anything.

[Vejjiegirl]

I think throwers/trolls should also be condemned to some sort of punishment. I've had the same AST for about 7 games now that keeps spamming Deorbit on me and the melee DPS for no reason, which costs us kills. And doing stuff like that really makes the game much less fun and turns it frustrating if anything.

You should probably not mark your healers target to ignore when the match starts.
I've been watching a lot of your games from streams and whenever healers die you always spam "Nice Job" or "Good Match". When you get a healer you don't like you mark them target to ignore right at the start of games.

Even when I heal you there are times when you just get under my skin due to "Nice Job" when someone dies or "target to ignore".

Stressing out your party with spam and toxic behavior IMO is almost on the same level as throwing and trolling.

Please treat your healers and party mates with respect.

[Trinket]

You should probably not mark your healers target to ignore when the match starts.
I've been watching a lot of your games from streams and whenever healers die you always spam "Nice Job" or "Good Match". When you get a healer you don't like you mark them target to ignore right at the start of games.

Even when I heal you there are times when you just get under my skin due to "Nice Job" when someone dies or "target to ignore".

Stressing out your party with spam and toxic behavior IMO is almost on the same level as throwing and trolling.

Please treat your healers and party mates with respect.

I'm not going to lie, I'm not sure if this is exaggerated or not. And if it's not, then I sincerely apologize and will definitely work on reducing and eliminating my "toxicity".
It's rather hard [for me] to keep calm when you're paired with the same people who make the same mistakes/sabotage the team when it would have been an easy win otherwise.

Now, bare with me, for the following is going to look and seem very ironic.

However, I would argue that using Deorbit on someone, an action that directly affects the game, just to displace them because they "got under your skin" is also not the best way to remedy said stress. Throwing matches would also not lighten the stress. And as you've mentioned, responding to spamming chat with more chat spamming doesn't do that either. If anything, it makes it worse by making the player more frustrated. Responding to toxicity with more toxicity makes the match a worse experience for everyone involved.


I agree with your point of stressing out the party with spam and toxic behavior is about the same level as throwing and trolling (and again, I'd like to apologize for my actions if I did the aforementioned things), but we should be the better people and not let that get to us and continue to do our best to provide the best experience for the community as a whole. (Sorry for the cliche response.)

I'm going to take this to heart and hope other players who are in similar situations will, too.

I guess the bigger lesson would be to:

Please treat everyone, regardless of behavior, with respect.

[Cammel]

I can support this from personal experience. You spend the time to spam chat you also can spend time losing, encouragement could b considered a tool if people are willing to work with you instead of just constant bickering

[Geryth]

I can support this from personal experience. You spend the time to spam chat you also can spend time losing, encouragement could b considered a tool if people are willing to work with you instead of just constant bickering

Intentionally losing a game or messing up a teammate because you don't like them is worse than them sarcastically spamming Good Job or otherwise being toxic. People can be jerks. Making a jerk lose makes you a bigger jerk.

[Synestra]

It's rather hard [for me] to keep calm when you're paired with the same people who make the same mistakes/sabotage the team when it would have been an easy win otherwise.

I totally understand this as i have suffered from this since 2.3 when pvp was added to the game, the way i fixed this was that i just stopped caring. If you snap someday and need to vent it out use FC discord or something similar, it helped me but i still sometimes type something snarky in alliance chat because of this(everyone has those grumpy days). I knew how solo que feast would work out and these forums have proved my predictions right so i made wise decision to not take part in it, i would probably be bold by now if i would have done solo que feast...

[uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu]

Well the right pvp attitude is we suck it all up win or lose but win trading should not be ignored. I like the OP, it's as good as it gets for punishment. My main concern is moving the pvp attitude that fair play is well rewarded than ignoring cheating all together because the punishment is justified. Is there something positive should be done (more) ?

[abbas]

i agree with mr uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu

[Stormfur]

Eventually, if it keeps going the way it is, Feast and Frontline will just become a cesspool of win-traders and bots strutting around -- more than it is already. Yoshi-P said in an interview that they plan the PVP content up to 2 years in advance, but like with the Feast -- did they really think these things through entirely? Other ranking ladders exist in the game (GC standings, FC standings, Deep Dungeon) for no other reason than to see your name on a website. That's the only reward you get and I've never seen anyone get salty over not being in the Deep Dungeon score listings.

[Tussin]

if they want to create a legitimate pvp setting where pro gamers would take it seriously. you need to tackle loophole issues and sooner than later

otherwise its just a joke and a grind for achievement items and seasonal items.