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    Quote Originally Posted by xvshanevx View Post
    It has always been my belief that raiders should undoubtingly have the best possible gear in the game. Why? Because they are the ones that will actually use the gear. Many casual players, mainly ones who don't raid, will not use the gear to the best of its ability.
    • Raiders are the only ones with access to the best weapons
    • Left side armor upgrades
    • Accessory upgrades
    • Tomestone weapon upgrades

    These are the things only available to people willing to raid. Until the catch-up patch, where some of those items are then placed in hunt rewards and/or 24-man raids. These are patches specifically designed to let more casual players not be left completely behind come the next tier patch.

    Until then, raiders have the best gear possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by xvshanevx View Post
    So, I have to ask, why is raid gear so unaccommodating to our substats?
    Passive job balancing. Just because you have armor that can be used for three jobs doesn't mean it's the best armor for all three jobs.

    Example: The Augmented Allagan Casting Coat has spell speed, which is completely not beneficial to a red mage. The Genji Coat is the better upgrade between the two final coats. Even giving the crafted gear preferred melds, it still isn't as good to a red mage as the Genji coat (because the substats can't make up the difference of main stat loss and be more than the secondary stats combined).

    Quote Originally Posted by xvshanevx View Post
    pentamelded crafted gear (which should NEVER be BiS).
    You have to take into consideration the weight of your main stat (this is always 1), the differences in the substats (this changes per job and the benefits it reaps). Using red mage as an example again, just because a stat isn't as useful as another doesn't make its value 0. Spell speed isn't that useful to a red mage, but if a piece of gear were to come down to just the choice of 50 Crit or 200 Spell Speed, that 200 Spell Speed is worth more than the 50 Crit. Generally, when people say 'worthless,' they are really saying worst choice, even if they don't understand that. Actual worthless are things like piety on any job other than healer.

    This flows back into the above response as passive job balancing.

    There have been instances of 24 man raid gear being BiS, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by xvshanevx View Post
    I really like raiding in this game, and I seriously would like to see better rewards come out of it. The fact that the only decent item, right now, for my main job, is just the i345 weapons, is really silly.
    We're already being rewarded plenty over non-raiders.
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    Last edited by JunseiKei; 09-19-2017 at 12:48 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
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    I am not making the argument that raiders DON'T have the best gear, what I am stating is that Raiders deserve better customization from their raid gear, so that ALL the raid gear from a raid is BiS, not 1 or maybe 2 pieces but ALL the pieces.

    I understand that we get twines and dips to upgrade the tome gear, but I want to see the raid gear, ya know, the gear that drops from the raid, not from tomes, to be the best.

    Every single drop from any Savage raid boss should be the best piece of gear you can get during a current patch cycle (even + odd), PERIOD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xvshanevx View Post
    I am not making the argument that raiders DON'T have the best gear, what I am stating is that Raiders deserve better customization from their raid gear, so that ALL the raid gear from a raid is BiS, not 1 or maybe 2 pieces but ALL the pieces.

    I understand that we get twines and dips to upgrade the tome gear, but I want to see the raid gear, ya know, the gear that drops from the raid, not from tomes, to be the best.

    Every single drop from any Savage raid boss should be the best piece of gear you can get during a current patch cycle (even + odd), PERIOD.
    Why?

    Also, it's not just one or two pieces. Looking at my gear, it's seven.

    EDIT:
    Allowing custom stats to the gear would mean SE would scale the fights accordingly. It would be harder to balance entry raiding versus mid-geared raiding and fully geared raiding. You're not thinking long term; right now we have v1s to v4s. For v5s to v9s, they'd have to balance the fight in mind that there will be players with no raid gear and players with full raid gear. That would be incredibly hard to balance, if not impossible. It'd end up being too hard for new raiders or stupidly easy for returning raiders.

    In the end, they would probably limit what stats you can put where. IE: Your chest you can put in all of the crit or dh to your heart's content. Then jump down to your shoes; now you can only put in skillspeed, determination and tenacity. Making the change questionable at best.
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    Last edited by JunseiKei; 09-19-2017 at 03:30 PM.
    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.