WHM/ Plenary Indulgence?

[NephilimCanis]

Hello everyone!
Please excuse me, if there has been a similar thread already, but I kinda wanted to get this off of my chest... ( not that I know where I'm going with this )

First of all.. Before stormblood hit, I was worried about the future of the white mage. It's been my main for three years, so of course I didn't know what to expect after seeing all those 'WHM is dead' memes.

In hindsight...I must say, whm is the most powerful it's ever been. As rather experienced player, I can now easily heal up the entire party in a matter of 2 seconds, dps like crazy and not run out of mp.
The thing that bothers me is, that most white mages I've seen in duty finder are flat out just lazy or don't know it any better.

Exhibit A.) Plenary Indulgence

In my opinion, most underrated whm skill but also an ungodly powerful one.
I mostly never see other whitemages use it. The confession stacks just keep piling up, but go unused. ( hey, it's a no-mp, instant cast that's almost as powerful as Cure III on a confession stack of 3 )
Now..after my levelling process, I did not know how to properly use it and it seemed pretty useless to me.. until I started running Susano. The AOE heals were strong in this one, so I tried finding other ways to utilise all of my skills, when it dawned on me.
After a couple AOE heals, I realised that a mere Cure III + plenary indulgence can heal a nearly dead party up to full HP in an instant. ( instant meaning.. precasting/swiftcast)
Whilst I heal up the entire party in an instant, other healers will start casting a spell only after everyone is already topped off. ( so basically, wasting their mp )
Now, don't get me wrong, this isn't an me being an arrogant '' I can do everything better than you anyway and y'all suck'' post.
I am just genuinely wondering why the majority of whitemages don't utilise the extend of their skills as they should, or is this just a narrow-minded opinion of myself?

Anyway, I'd like to hear your opinions on this, especially if you are a fellow white mage yourself ^-^/ <3

[mosaicex]

It's arguably not very useful in any content below EX-Primals, where 1 or 2 aoe heals topped up entire party and thus the more casual healers developed the habit of not using it entirely.

But I'm sure no White Mage will say it's useless in Savage fights, against things such as Charybdis + multi Roar, Gravitational Wave + Unstable Gravity, Dimensional Wave wombo-combo, and, of course, Almagest, and so on.

[Kabzy]

( hey, it's a no-mp, instant cast that has a higher potency than Cure III on a confession stack of 3 )

Might want to fix that part. At 3 stacks it is 450 potency, Cure III is 550.

I don't have much more to add to this, I agree with Mosaicex that it's not really needed in casual content. I'm assuming it's just one of those abilities that healers sit on waiting for a dire situation. Whereas in reality it just boosts your AoE potency, and is worth using whenever considering the CD is only 60s. And yes, it's definitely not underused in Savage content.

[NobleWinter]

Its always going to be a problem with all the simplistic leveling content where healers can get away with minimal skill usage and therefore develop poor habits. Plenary Indulgence is also the very last skill a WHM learns and incredibly niche as well so you have 70 levels of doing just fine without it and suddenly you have to force yourself to remember it even exist.

[NephilimCanis]

Might want to fix that part. At 3 stacks it is 450 potency, Cure III is 550.

oops... Since I don't ever remember any specifics about skill, I was using the description from another page..it was stated there that it was stronger than Cure III... thanks!

[NephilimCanis]

Ah, I can't really say anything to the usage in savage, since I haven't been there yet..
It's definitely not really worth using it in basic content, such as roulettes.

I've only run trials ( farmed Susano and Susano to death xD ) and it's just irritating when the party wipes because there hasn't been sufficient healing...
( or sometimes, letting me basically solo heal everything xD )
I'll look more into savage when I've got time and might change my opinion :P
thanks for the replies so far!

[Jaibamon]

Extremely useful ability on this Savage tier content, even at one stack.

Not every ability should be useful for any kind of content.

[Miles_Maelstrom]

Question for the WHMs in this thread. How does this ability function with other WHM do Confessions stacks get muddled with 2 WHM in a group?

[Risvertasashi]

It's arguably not very useful in any content below EX-Primals, where 1 or 2 aoe heals topped up entire party and thus the more casual healers developed the habit of not using it entirely.

But I'm sure no White Mage will say it's useless in Savage fights, against things such as Charybdis + multi Roar, Gravitational Wave + Unstable Gravity, Dimensional Wave wombo-combo, and, of course, Almagest, and so on.

Absolutely yes.

If I had a gripe, it's that 10s is just short enough that sometimes it falls off right before a follow up raid hit. Still, I get a lot of mileage out of it.

Question for the WHMs in this thread. How does this ability function with other WHM do Confessions stacks get muddled with 2 WHM in a group?

Ideally the aoe healing will hit everyone*. Which means you can stay targeting one of the tanks, and the green numbers tell you which buff is yours. And you can even just look at your own buff bar really... It was a lot more impractical back when it was single target as you would have to target and check each person to tell.

*...might be a bigger problem when the alliance raids hit, since there people like standing far, far away...

[Miles_Maelstrom]

Ideally the aoe healing will hit everyone*. Which means you can stay targeting one of the tanks, and the green numbers tell you which buff is yours. And you can even just look at your own buff bar really... It was a lot more impractical back when it was single target as you would have to target and check each person to tell.

*...might be a bigger problem when the alliance raids hit, since there people like standing far, far away...

Oh SHoot. I was hoping WHM gained something that makes them not function well with their own class. Like SCH and Shields, and AST and card buffs. Guess hoping that Confessions stacks from other WHM overwrote your own was hoping for too much.