Increasing xp gained by dps classes in leveling dungeons

[SenorPatty]

I understand OP's frustration. The exp rate gain between tank/healers and dps is a fairly wide gap. In the best party conditions possible, for example, I could join and complete Bardam's Mettle 4-5 times in an hour. For DPS, I'm looking at 2 and honestly stretching to 3 times, simply because the wait queue itself in my data center's about 20m in average (15-17 being the lowest and 25m the highest). This is why people can level their tanks and healers (each, not at the same time) in like a week if they exclusively focus on leveling but dps takes much longer.

Honestly, I feel like the only way an exp increase for dps would work is if they increased to a point where, for example, one could cap from 60-70 as a dps in the same timeframe it takes a healer/tank to cap. That's the tangible solution that I don't think S.E's going to touch at all due to various factors. After all, I recount many posts regarding this kind of topic that refer to HW's AST and DRK where the aventurer in need was DPS. So what does this mean for this expansion? It means the problem that is long waits for this factor in particular is temporary. Prior to SB, my average wait times as a dps rarely exceeded 15m for any sort of roulette and I am confident that as time keeps going on, the wait will lessen. It will still be the highest of the 3 roles but it might more tolerable.

Another factor as to why I think SE would not implement an increase is the unwritten word that it "balances" role expectations out. Tanks and healers have more responsibility than dps. Its why they get more rewards from the roulette prizes. Now bear with me but I am of the belief that SE would not increase exp for role that doesn't carry as much "weight" as tank and healers and that the quick queues are in itself a form of "reward".

Lastly and possibly the most comical would be an escalation effect. If exp is increased to a point where it effectively compensates for time spent waiting for a queue, then what should happen if there are even more dps than before trying to queue? Then dps would find themselves waiting just as long, then complain, then SE increases exp again...but up to which point? And where does it end? One level gained per roulette? (Yes, I just exaggerated there but point remains.)

Unfortunately, its just one of those things there will never have an effective solution so long as any roulette needs specific roles for its completions.

[blindfoldedkaos]

This would at least make up for the discrepancy in queue times, putting the leveling ability on par with tanks and healers.

I know there are lots of ways to level dps classes outside of dungeons, but the game is basically dungeon based. Using other leveling methods effectively hampers dps skill set at end game.

Thoughts?

God no, that will just make queues even worse.

[Astral145]

I could care less about DF Roulette incentives. We need content that will allow a group of 4 dps to clear like actual dungeons and other content to level up in. Fates are boring and the exp rewarded from fates is not worth enough to do slow fate grinds solo. Leves? meh... PVP? I dont think so when you end up losing 90% of the time and watching bots screw it all up... its not worth running pvp at the moment.

Real Tank and Healer incentives

Solution: turn tanks into glorified dps. Give tanks a sweet dps rotation with sweet damage out along with the tank rotation. I'm not saying give Tanks equivalent damage out to dps but make it feel like they are a dps. They could even add in buffs when using the dps rotation like 5% or 10% damage mitigation from auto attacks for 10 secs...ect

Healers really could use a real dps rotation... i mean seriously its boring to spam rock throwing over and over again... oooooh look at me I can throw rocks at the boss.... The devs could add in self mp regan and Hp regan for nearby group members as you utilize the dps rotation. If you stop dpsing then the hp/mp regan stops.

The above is real incentives... giving extra popcorn for using the DF roulette is not real long lasting incentives. Making the job feel rewarding to play is the real incentive.

[blindfoldedkaos]

Snip Snip Snip

Well we have PotD with more Palace on the way at some point.

Tanks already have two rotations, one for aggro, one for dps, and if you are PLD one for MP regain.

WHM has Stone, Aero, Aero III and holy, oh and assize, but hey, lets just spam rock throw?

[Astral145]

Well we have PotD with more Palace on the way at some point.

Tanks already have two rotations, one for aggro, one for dps, and if you are PLD one for MP regain.

WHM has Stone, Aero, Aero III and holy, oh and assize, but hey, lets just spam rock throw?

With WHM after setting your dots its still the same skill spamming over and aver again which is rock throwing and extremely boring. Healers in general needs a real rotation that applies some kind of effect to nearby party members. The tank's dps rotation is also very boring. Just saying tanks and healer jobs needs to be revamped so they feel more rewarding to play so more players pick up the job. DPS are fun to play because they feel rewarding when you play them. When I run as PLD I enjoy being a meet shield but after a week of playing it i get bored and move back to playing dps for several weeks and this also applies to healing.

Tank & Healer jobs are not engaging enough to hold interests for a lot of players. Why not revamp the jobs so more players will give it a shot.

[Zumi]

I would like to see some double exp weekends since leveling jobs from 60 to 70 can take quite a long time after you did your Stormblood story.

[Arrius]

I would like to see some double exp weekends since leveling jobs from 60 to 70 can take quite a long time after you did your Stormblood story.

Why should they - That's content you can tackle until the next expansion, which surely takes another 18 months to come.

[Tint]

Why should they - That's content you can tackle until the next expansion, which surely takes another 18 months to come.

not to mention that we already have bonus exp from resting, fc buffs or the scrolls from squadron, exp buff when you already have one job at max lvl, bonus exp in leveling roulette every day (at least it should open once a day for you DDs) and then there is other stuff like weekly challenge log, bonus exp in guildhests for first timer, daylie beast tribe quests with added exp bonus when they are at max rank...

long story short: if you want an exp bonus, activate your FC buff.

[Miles_Maelstrom]

I would like to see some double exp weekends since leveling jobs from 60 to 70 can take quite a long time after you did your Stormblood story.

Disagree, the quests definitely took a hit in their experience value this expansion. They gave in relation to the amount of exp you needed very little.

[ErryK]

I would like to see some double exp weekends since leveling jobs from 60 to 70 can take quite a long time after you did your Stormblood story.

Just let your rested EXP build up, then play only weekends. There's your double EXP weekends.