DRKs talking to a brick wall

[Vallamaria]

I've decided to revise this opening post since the way I initially worded things has lead to many misunderstandings.

As a Dark Knight main this sub-forum greatly saddens me. I mean since 4.0 and even more so after 4.1 it's been full of threads from people who have all sorts of ideas of how to fix/balance/improve DRK. Yet all they're doing is just talking to a brick wall. You're literally just wasting your time. Because fact of the matter is SE is never going to use any of those wild ideas or even see or respond to a single one of those threads. Heck one only needs to go back through the pages of this sub-forum to see that the last time someone from SE ever responded to a thread in here was back in February of 2016. I'll even include the link to the post I speak of here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3592519

So with that being said I wish all my fellow DRKs would just keep things focused on discussing the main core problems with DRK while we wait for the next Q&A. But once it arrives we absolutely MUST make ourselves heard during the Q&A in the next Letter from the Producer LIVE! Since that is the only time they ever seem to truly pay attention to the outcry of Tanks.

[MagiusNecros]

You mean the Q and A where they PR handpick questions that don't matter?

[Vallamaria]

You mean the Q and A where they PR handpick questions that don't matter?

Actually they have picked out some questions that do matter before in past Q&As. Some past examples include:

• The issue of Tanks having no STR on their accessories in 4.0. Which was causing Tanks to use STR accessories rather than VIT.

• Players feeling like Tenacity as a stat wasn't effective enough.

• The player concern at the start of 4.0 about WAR/DRK feeling sub-par compared to the offensive and defensive capabilities PLD.

Aside from those 3 Tank related issues they also responded to questions concerning other Jobs too in this particular Q&A: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Update-Thread

So please don't falsely claim that they never pick any questions that actually matter. Since that thread I linked alone proves that they do actually take notice of important issues if enough people are asking about them. So if during the next Q&A all the upset DRKs let their outcry be heard there's a very high chance that some of those questions will be noticed. Which is likely to bring more attention to the problem.

[MagiusNecros]

Actually they have picked out some questions that do matter before in past Q&As. Some past examples include:

Mmm yes. These questions are more generalized. But I think it's merely stuff we knew they were going to address prior to SB launch. But as we've seen PLD at launch got a big facelift and WAR's complained about the Stance swap cost being stupid and got changed.

DRK however has always been performing like shit since launch though. People only tolerated it through lvl up just to see if it got better. And not by much. TBN might be wonderful but it's more a 1 step forward 2 steps back kinda thing with all the changes in functionality from HW to SB.

[Mycow8me]

Honestly I don't expect them to use anything the players say in regards to class balancing but voices have inspired changes a few times even the most recent one shake it off. So they are "listening" even if not using our ideas. Sometimes its fun to just come on here and debate about a class and see what others are struggling with/thinking about in regards to an issue.

Telling people not to say anything "or even to stop now" is like telling SE there's nothing to worry about or even consider as a possible problem anymore.

[Chrono_Rising]

If the developers continue to just ignore Dark Knight issues eventually people will begin leaving the job and the game. Cut your tank population by a third and the dps will start complaining as well. They can then look at the forums and say, oh maybe this lack of response is bad for public relations.

[Claire_Pendragon]

I'm leaving my subscription canceled until I hear from the DEVs on this.
They dont need an immediate fix. They just need to say they at least hear us on the subject.

[Tint]

i didn't touched the game since 4.1 patchday, not sure if or when i continue playing. i quit DRK right after 4.0, but since there is no other class i like except WHM, but i can't handle healer-dps, i returned to DRK after 2 weeks in hope for adjustments in 4.1. but nothing came so i don't know... leaving the game means leaving my FC behind, but playing the game is not much fun anymore...

[akisya]

A community manager would not have the right to say anything about confirmed class changes, unless told to by their superior. Their job is to moderate the forums, not make changes to the game. They should be giving feedback of the players to the appropriate staff, not replying to us on here. If community managers didn't moderate these threads, it would be nice if we could harass one another about how much tank DPS should be done, right?

[Chrono_Rising]

A community manager would not have the right to say anything about confirmed class changes, unless told to by their superior. Their job is to moderate the forums, not make changes to the game. They should be giving feedback of the players to the appropriate staff, not replying to us on here. If community managers didn't moderate these threads, it would be nice if we could harass one another about how much tank DPS should be done, right?

I am fairly certain the community is calling for a developer’s input, not the community managers, though I realize the OP is looking for a community rep. I’m just trying to be clear about what I would want to hear. Do they think the class is fine? If they do why do they perceive it to be fine? Can they share some data? What made it necessary to lower our oGCD aoe by 50 potency and double the cost?