Quote Originally Posted by Ksenia View Post
4 star 60 is comparable to no star 68-70. That was the point I was trying to make. When we get 4 star 70 it will be a no star 78-80 level recipe, we will need to do it with over meld 70 though. It's why people can level from expansion end game to expansion end game and never gear.
You're right that the quality bar of a 4 star lvl 60 item is as long as the quality bar of a no star lvl 70 item (13187 quality). But the progress bar of the 4 star 60 is only comparable to that of a level 63 recipe (1968 progress for level 63 recipe, instead of 2952 for level 70 recipe). Although, Heavensward items have only 70 durab instead of 80 durab. So that does contribute to some extra difficulty. (level 63 recipes have 10439 quality to push only)