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    IStolzI's Avatar
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    Just Realized - Are jobs bringing 2 hours back?

    Maybe this was talked about before but looking back over the job's ability list I realized some of the abilities are similiar to the XI 2hours.

    WHM get benediction, MNK get 100 fists, PLD get invincible, WAR has the stun all/remove sleep from all, the DRG breath attack, BLM get convert, etc
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    To start with, Convert as a 2-hour would be terrible.
    Taking the old Rebirth as an example, I'd say the longest they will make any recast is 30 minutes, maybe 10 minutes.
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    XI: Zeroblade, Titan Server

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    Keftenk Duras
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    I agree, 2hours are dated. Bring them back as 30minute abilities.
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Archer Lv 50
    Yoshida did mention he was in favor of a '2 hour' type system, but nothing was set in stone or in what regards it would exist. It would be nice jobs do get 2 hour reintroductions since it's just yet another tool to play with for your job depending on effects (for example benediction after a nasty Aerial Blast/Whatever Garuda's marked move will be which will help in MP conservation.)

    It probably won't be "2 hour cooldown" given how people complained about it in the topic, e.g "No skill should have a long cooldown timer" but we do know they're at least thinking about bringing back the concept of a desperation skill.
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    well I didn't think it would be exactly the same as XI with 2h cooldown, but yes the desperation attacks seem to be in the job system is what I'm saying
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    Frein Mannis
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    I sure hope not as it's terrible game design. Remember how in FFXI you'd rely almost entirely on having your 2h abilities off cooldown for tough fights and if you failed, you immediately disbanded? Yeah, I do too. Giving players incredible power spikes on long cooldowns makes content impossible to balance and the end result will always be that the fight is either nearly impossible without them or trivially easy with them.
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    Stu Foo
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    There are some job abilities in the dats at the moment that are 900 seconds, but who knows if they'll stay that way. Given the current battles, that's only two uses maximum per fight. The "2-hour" concept is fine but the actual two hour recast is stupid, this should be okay.
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    Yuki Ynagi
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    job abilities has been dat-mined, the longest of them was hundred fist with 15 min recast. If i recall right
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    Vackashken Zuth
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    the battle director several months ago said he liked them and thought they brought a level of stratagem to the game. So more than like some kind of ability in said vein will appear.
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    Loridion Lenchvire
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    2 hours would be such a terrible idea. I agree that they should be roughly 15 minutes at most. Love if it convert was more like 5 minutes or so.
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    Last edited by SnickleWhiskers; 01-02-2012 at 08:17 PM.

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