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    Syrus_Draco's Avatar
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    Syrus Hyena
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    Excalibur
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    There are a multitude of reasons as to why fixes may not be implemented or concerned addressed so quickly. To us it may seem like the devs don't care because we get minimal responses from the community team in PVP, but they do gather all the information and report it to the devs. Finding solutions to all the PVP problems isn't something that is solved in a single meeting and fixed over night. They have to map out solutions that works for the community at large, figure out solutions as to how to implement the fixes in game, and assure that it does not compromise other elements of the game at large.

    If they didn't care about PVP they wouldn't have revamped it for SB the way they did, and they would just leave it alone. End of the day, 14 is still a PVE majority game, and the devs have a multitude of issues and concerns to address while creating new content to players with every patch. I'm not excusing them from not addressing the many concerns in PVP, but we need to support the devs while we voice our concerns. As Yoshi P did mention, writing out formal and detailed reports and concerns helps the time a lot more than over emotional rants and yelling.
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    Geryth Drayfore
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    I agree that alts taking up top 100 slots isn't ideal (just like alts taking housing plots) and that if they can limit it to 1 per account then that's the best solution. But I do have to ask - is this really a problem that we know of? Is there an "alt problem" in the top 100? How do you know people are playing alts into the top 100?
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    Syrus_Draco's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geryth View Post
    I agree that alts taking up top 100 slots isn't ideal (just like alts taking housing plots) and that if they can limit it to 1 per account then that's the best solution. But I do have to ask - is this really a problem that we know of? Is there an "alt problem" in the top 100? How do you know people are playing alts into the top 100?
    In the PVP LS I'm in I've seen/heard several of players talk about switching to alts and taking up the top 100 spots and such. I'm sure other servers have players like that. In that case they are minimizing the 100 pool but a decent chunk.
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    These type of issues seem to have been part of PvP since it's creation. Botting, speed or teleporting 'hacks', using alternate characters from the same account to dominate the rankings, win-trading, use of third party programs to gain advantages where others wouldn't such as using voice-communications in a 4vs4 randomly matched game or programs that alert them to things they wouldn't naturally be aware of (e.g DPS uses X ability from the other side of the arena, the tank may not normally be aware they're about to try and burst if they're so far away, but when you have a program that can alert you the second it's about to come up...)

    It's not likely to change, either. There isn't any way they can stop people from using third party programs, hacks, etc, there's always going to be people who will find a way around it. Honestly I think a more likely scenario is that they delete ranked Feast; I honestly believe they'd choose doing that over putting things in place that can effectively and efficiently stop players from 'cheating'

    Addendum: it's funny to see the Feast advertised so often by the FFXIV team on social media as if it's true, meaningful content in its own right, and not just an extra for when one is bored of PvE. I wonder how many times they've had to fight against people utilising these programs
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    Last edited by Connor; 09-16-2017 at 02:19 AM.

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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Addendum: it's funny to see the Feast advertised so often by the FFXIV team on social media as if it's true, meaningful content in its own right, and not just an extra for when one is bored of PvE. I wonder how many times they've had to fight against people utilising these programs
    Dunno about other folks, but I PvP far far more than I've ever done the pve content. For me its the reverse, outside of raids its just run the same dungeons over and over to farm tomes, in fights you've done a ton of times, for gear you have to keep updated to continue to do the same thing, at least the stories are usually interesting. I'm pretty thankful they added tomes to PvP honestly, now I hardly ever have to step foot in the same dungeon more than I want to.

    At least fighting players can be somewhat different between matches. But that's why we all have different opinions and enjoy different content.
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    I like when people are flaming others for having alts with different jobs on the same datacenter while themselves have alts on different datacenters. With pathetic excuses like 'there's different meta so it's okay'. An alt is an alt, you are still taking someone's spot in Top 100. Stop this hypocrisy. Play on your main on your datacenter like you are supposed to do, stop taking world dominance and robbing other people of their rewards. No, you don't really need 4 copies of the same coat.
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    Lloyd Irving
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    Odin
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Im against alts taking up ladder spots aswell, but usually the pvp community is so small even smaller now after the "pvp revamp" in SB it feels like... We just need more ppl to play feast ranked overall.
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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Malina Loma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by snipski View Post
    Im against alts taking up ladder spots aswell, but usually the pvp community is so small even smaller now after the "pvp revamp" in SB it feels like... We just need more ppl to play feast ranked overall.
    Feast in a nutshell:
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Feast in a nutshell:
    Dunno bout feast but that looks exactly how warriors used to be in pvp before SB :P
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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Malina Loma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synestra View Post
    Dunno bout feast but that looks exactly how warriors used to be in pvp before SB :P
    WAR was more like this!

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