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  1. #21
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    miraidensetsu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    You can complete all current content with 240ms+ easily
    I quite disagree.

    It is possible complete content with 240ms lag, but the content is harsher. For instance, you have less than a half second to avoid AOE that normally are giving 2 seconds for a player with a ping less than 100ms. It is quite common the client shows the char exiting the bad before the cast ends but taking the damage anyways.

    I know that because South America is one of those places with 240ms+ lag. And I had to time better my movements to not get caught by mechanics.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    ...Can you imagine yourself in a party where the other 7 players speak french for example you know nothing of that language?...
    Even though I reckon that a separate Oceania data centre would be a better solution than an English speaking server within the JP data centres (as cross realm parties will still end up mixed), I find your answer to this thread slightly laughable... For one, people who play in the European Data centres deal with having to do content with people speaking different languages every day and we all somehow manage to do the content just fine...
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morsmordie View Post
    I find your answer to this thread slightly laughable... For one, people who play in the European Data centres deal with having to do content with people speaking different languages every day and we all somehow manage to do the content just fine...
    Well i did say for example to try to get my point across.
    Since you play on EU and may or may not know how JP DC works.
    I am not sure how NA/EU differs from one another BUT JP DC have a complete unique way of doing things.
    Like using macros to post the strategy of the raid in chat. Using macros to coordinate in Frontlines. Different way of calling tanks in raid (MT and ST). Whenever entering an ID greetings and thanking each other for one's hardwork are to be expected.

    While it may be laughable to you it's whole different culture over here.
    So basically we have different way of thinking and JP DC have an attitude of if you can't integrate then they won't welcome you.

    Edit: For people who are thinking why people are bashing OP PLEASE READ OP's comment again. OP is flat out DEMANDING and not asking what other English server out there OP can play in.
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    Last edited by Dalmacus; 09-16-2017 at 12:25 AM.

  4. #24
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    Damaskus Azure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dortharl View Post
    I'm really confused as the motivation many people have when replying to threads, so far we have one user making a request from SE and while it could have been worded better English is not everyone's first language. You then have a series of users berating the op for making a request with only one being moderately helpful reply. I remember when FFXIV was better more helpful online community.

    I know I'm late to this conversation, but I just wanted to wholeheartedly agree with this post since I can only "Like" it once...

    Sometimes this community is embarrassing, to say the least.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    I quite disagree.

    It is possible complete content with 240ms lag, but the content is harsher. For instance, you have less than a half second to avoid AOE that normally are giving 2 seconds for a player with a ping less than 100ms. It is quite common the client shows the char exiting the bad before the cast ends but taking the damage anyways.

    I know that because South America is one of those places with 240ms+ lag. And I had to time better my movements to not get caught by mechanics.
    Do you think you are exaggerating a bit? You think that playing at 240ms gives you 1.5 seconds lag over someone at 100ms? I've done O4S at 240ms (I'm from Australia on NA svr) - never once did I feel like I was disadvantaged due to my ping. I've also done Susan/Lak at both 140 (Tonberry) and 240ms ping - both felt the same.
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    Last edited by Pence; 09-16-2017 at 12:35 AM.

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    I wouldn't click that link even if I was dying of thirst and you said it would deliver ice cold gallons of water to my door, sorry. And if you join linkshells on JP worlds, it's really nice there! You don't need majority english to have fun.
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  8. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    If someone demands an english server on a japanese dataserver, then why shouldn't people from other countries demand that too? Or do you think other languages are not allowed to do so?

    Actually we don't need all these servers and we don't need a English server on a Japanese data server. If you are not able to communicate with the people there, then don't play there.
    Oceanic players are asking for a dedicated English server on the server which provide the best ping. JP players asking for a JP server on the NA data-centre is nonsensical because it'd be an increase in ping. I'm sorry if this doesn't make sense to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sisilala View Post
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    Talking from experience, it seems to me that there are quite a few English speakers on the Novice Network of Masamune, as there's always someone indicating places of hunts and stuff like that
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  10. #29
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    I'm a bit confused on why having an "Oceana" marked server or two would be a bad thing, either. Echoing Pence above, the European DC has always run fine with many languages flying around, and most players of each first language gravitates towards a particular server (last I heard, Shiva was the place to be for Germans much like Tonberry is for Aus and Oceana).

    Maybe try making an alt on the new servers in the centers and find if it works for you. Then you won't get locked in a transfer.
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  11. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    I'm a bit confused on why having an "Oceana" marked server or two would be a bad thing, either. Echoing Pence above, the European DC has always run fine with many languages flying around, and most players of each first language gravitates towards a particular server (last I heard, Shiva was the place to be for Germans much like Tonberry is for Aus and Oceana).

    Maybe try making an alt on the new servers in the centers and find if it works for you. Then you won't get locked in a transfer.
    That is if oceania get it's own seperate DC then i would welcome it too. But if you put it in a JP DC it only spills trouble. Because you can queue cross server and if there's 2 different playstyle oh god we don't want to go there...
    Language will be a major issue too so i don't think it's "Healthy" to put oceania dedicated server in a JP DC.
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