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  1. #21
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    AmyNeudaiz's Avatar
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    Adahna Serafi
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    This thread is a lol. Thm does more damage, I have compared it. Though having *one* Cnj to stick choke and magic eva. down is nice, even though Thm can do it too.

    But to answer some questions, yes fire does actually heal him for small amounts (even using Fists of Fire on Pgl has the same effect) and if you want a speed run you're gonna want all DD as Thm and at most 1 DD Cnj and very little death.
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    Fated Erskine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    but wind does the most damage against ifrit believe me.. its a REAL difference to cast the best element on the mob since some patches.

    so ice is the worst choice , the same for fire (THM)... and lightning is only neutral to fire. the damage is ok, but so wind is much better. just try it out and compare. i easily outdamage a THM at dragon spots with wind. while i do around 1k damage the thm does with thunder only around 600-800. (and i have wind items equipped on)
    I'm guessing you've never nuked Ifrit if you think you're pulling out a 1k nuke against him on CNJ. I don't care what your outdated elemental wheel picture says (that thing was created before the game's original release and is probably no longer valid in any way shape or form) if you have practical in game experience, then feel free to share.

    Anyway, the optimal set up for a speed run would be GLD, CNJ and 6 THMs, end of story.
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    You have to be on lancer casting wind>.> I just proved it.
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    Nine Sunz
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    i'm curious, whats the avg kill time with gld cnj thmx6?
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    Fated Erskine
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    Quote Originally Posted by ninesunz View Post
    i'm curious, whats the avg kill time with gld cnj thmx6?
    I'm guessing 10 minutes easily assuming people aren't screwing up. You would have faster and slower kill times based on Crimson Cyclone, nothing you can really do about that.
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    KamikazeMan's Avatar
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    Lodovico Rivers
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    Quote Originally Posted by ninesunz View Post
    i'm curious, whats the avg kill time with gld cnj thmx6?
    Somebody mentioned doing it in about 6 minutes, but I just can't imagine how that's possible....sure I can see getting to Hellfire in 6 minutes, but to be in a party where people know how to recover very quickly and efficiently on top of his jump 6 minute just doesn't seem possible.
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    Daddy Dufresh
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    Quote Originally Posted by KamikazeMan View Post
    Somebody mentioned doing it in about 6 minutes, but I just can't imagine how that's possible....sure I can see getting to Hellfire in 6 minutes, but to be in a party where people know how to recover very quickly and efficiently on top of his jump 6 minute just doesn't seem possible.
    I said something about a 6ish mins run, and im sure it can be done but you would have to have the THMs with rly good melds/skill to do it. Like i think our best time was just under 10 mins with GLA, CNJx2, THMx5. So if you had 6 THM doing top DMG you could get some rly fast runs I'm sure.
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  8. #28
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    Shadow Cadja
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    Quote Originally Posted by NamudNevets View Post
    I said something about a 6ish mins run, and im sure it can be done but you would have to have the THMs with rly good melds/skill to do it. Like i think our best time was just under 10 mins with GLA, CNJx2, THMx5. So if you had 6 THM doing top DMG you could get some rly fast runs I'm sure.
    I did a 9 min kill on ifrit today with 1 MRD, 1 PGL, 1 LNC, 2 CNJ, 1 THM, 2 ARC, was quite easy, just wasn't faster because all of the DD had to hold back a bit, harder to keep hate without +enmity melds. xD
    So yah, isn't with just THMs that can do speed runs, is more about people not getting hit by stuff. lol
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowCadja View Post
    I did a 9 min kill on ifrit today with 1 MRD, 1 PGL, 1 LNC, 2 CNJ, 1 THM, 2 ARC, was quite easy, just wasn't faster because all of the DD had to hold back a bit, harder to keep hate without +enmity melds. xD
    So yeah, isn't with just THMs that can do speed runs, is more about people not getting hit by stuff. lol
    Yeah It is nice when you can avoid all the hits. Stealing hate is about the only downfall to the THM burn but the 2 archer skills do help a ton.
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